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Is TF2 All that is it cracked up to be?

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There's a lot of hype, but why?

For TF2 there are a lot of flaws and a lot of good things. Lets start with flaws. Flaws:
  • To change your in-game name you have to change your name on the friends list
  • Some people are missing textures on default maps
  • Steam is cracking down on the 32+slot servers
  • Hackers have struck the game already
  • Only 1 admin mod exists so far (otherwise you have to use HLSW)
  • Only the Demoman can use nades. Wheres the other classes' nades
Positive Aspects
  • This game is very different then source games.
  • The classes are well balanced
  • Great game play
  • First steam game to get Achievements (that I know of)
  • Shows your stats for each class you use in detail
Yes this game is very fun, but I would just like to see Valve work on those flaws (except the admin, valve is not in charge of that). If I am missing a Flaw or Positive Aspect then let me know and I will add to this list.

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    The pros easily out weigh the few cons. I love it.
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    Don't get me wrong. It's a great game. I'd just like to see steam work on a few things and smooth it out some.
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    I'm not sure that the admin mod is really Valve's problem. Also hackers hit every game I can think of its just a way of multi player life. Other than those two things I agree with your cons list.
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    I'm talking about the game itself. Yes the admin is not valve's problem. Sorry for not making that clear.
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    I believe the map texture problem will be gone once they release the SDK. You can't give it cons for hackers, CSS had hackers the first day. I also hope the change the name thing in th next update.
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    Ive seen a spray ingame before i disabled them
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    Well is there already VAC on TF2? I just don't recall seeing VAC on there.
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    U can use sprays
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    I think the game has definitely met the proposed hype. My only REAL gripe about the game is how some of the respawn counts are ungodly long - 15 to 19 seconds. In a game like this, one of the very last things you want is a waiting period in between important offensive and defensive plays. I've seen far too many lost rounds because more than half the team was dead and were stuck waiting to respawn.
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    Some people missing textures? That's their fault for not being able to either A) run it well or B) install it properly. Hackers hit every single game that I have ever played, the Admin mods are not related to Valve in any way, Valve has always tried cracking down on small servers and really... who gives a shit about sprays? They do nothing. Oh, and by the way, Steam isn't a company. Valve is a company. Steam is a program. Valve made that program. Programs can't make games.
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    Fugistu the missing textures is not an installation problem.
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    Sir, you have just pointed out all the flaws of every game that has come out in the past two years. What do you except, a perfect game to come out with no issues? Well, I hope to see you in the CS major and see how well you come up with your code :)
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    Well it pisses me off because I don't use steam friends, so my name in TF2 is always "xx".
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    Guess what! Guess what! I have a solution to your problem! Heeerrreee it comes! HERE IT COMES! Don't change your fucking name. :)
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    You can use sprays, all you have to do is put the vmt/vmf in the correct folders. Cigano, Bigdog, and fugitsu pretty much said the rest. I would say the waiting to respawn would be a con. Other then that, I see no other problems.
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    To change your in-game name you have to change your name on the friends list Some people are missing textures on default maps Steam is cracking down on the 32+slot servers Hackers have struck the game already You can not use sprays yet Only 1 admin mod exists so far (otherwise you have to use HLSW)
    - Don't change your name. I know I'm not going to for a loooong time. Plus you can open steam friends in-game anyway... -Well that's hardly a flaw, it's just a flaw on Steam content servers. -Yeah that's a downer, but 24 is still fun. -You always get hackers. -You can use sprays, just a little harder to import. I've seen a couple already. -I'm no admin, so never mind. =]
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    Give it time, young one. Steam will fix itself.
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    Posted by Wildcard777 I'm talking about the game itself. Yes the admin is not valve's problem. Sorry for not making that clear.
    Not making it clear, you put into a list of the games flaws, looks like you just plain out don't think. Also, every steam game requires you to change your friends name, because there is no in-game name system, it uses your Steam Comunity name, AND avatar, if you have one. No, there aren't any missing textures by the way, that has to be a problem with your system, there hasn't been any reports at the Steam Forums or Steam Support of missing textures, don't say it was the "people" when it's just you. "Steam is cracking down on the 32+slot servers" Of course it is, and I don't see how this is a con, seeing as all the maps were made for 32 players, and for God's sake more than 32 players only results in more lag and less fun, not Valve's fault, it's the internet. "You can not use sprays yet" Now that proves that your plain dumb. There is an option to disable in-game sprays or keep them visible, you just have it off.
    Sprays were disabled during the beta. On every other game under options and multiplayer there is a spot to change your name. TF2 doesn't have that spot.
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    no grenades

    why would they take out the best thing about the game? all those awesome types ;__;
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    Posted by fox

    no grenades

    Oh good one. When will they add that?
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    Demoman Fox, demoman. And if every class had grenades then the classes would be unbalanced.
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    Didn't TFC have grenades for at least more than 1 class tho?
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    Posted by Ichigo Demoman Fox, demoman. And if every class had grenades then the classes would be unbalanced.
    i mean ones that can be thrown, like the concussion, hallucination, nail ect. grenades in TFC (like the scout could use the "conc" grenades to bounce around the map, and the pyros flame grenades made good flame walls) and cooking the grenade so others cant run from the explosion was fun also, in the trailer for TF2. the demo man was flinging around a stick on TNT and useing it as a thrown grenade.
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    I saw that TNT stick as well...I thought they would add it for the release of TF2 to but have not yet...
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    So yeah, on one has grenades. i would be happier if you could cook the ones from the grenade launcher
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    Yes there is a great many hackers in tf2, just watch those snipers. Ive also seen hacks like unlimited invisibility for spy, and when you disguise as someone else, you have their weapons and can do what they can do, even shoot. Which helps greatly being spy. Another thing ive seen for soldier was that their rockets were self-aimable, and would always hit the opponent by going by their walk path.
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    So did Valve add VAC to TF2? I never noticed a VAC secured server.
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    All servers are VAC secured. You can't have a Non Vac Secured sever.
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    You'd be surprised. There are some that aren't VAC secured that are all just hackers having fun on every steam game. I noticed a lot on cs1.6 and css.
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    Yeah me and my friend found a way to go around vac if you are vac banned. But it was just by accident, trying to play on someones hacked account. Now you can see everyone using it. Warning: if you see someone getting kicked for no-steam logon multiple times, thats 100% that he or she is using a vac banned account.
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    This game is awesome, stop complaining.
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    I just rewatched the the TF2 Teaser, and noticed that the DemoMan is holding a thing of TNT sticks.
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    Yeah its obvious that demoman should have a pack of tnt sticks instead of a gun that shoots lil bombs. I think theres a lot more to come for tf2
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    Posted by fox

    no grenades

    why would they take out the best thing about the game? all those awesome types ;__;
    except grenades were the worst things in tfc, was it even possible to kill someone without grenades? all it was, was shitty spam of grenades everywhere. thats the biggest improvement besides the graphics they made for this game. also about the demoman stuff. in the developer commentary it said they tried to do class specific grenades or something like that but decided to take it out all together cause it was much funner without it.
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    Grenades add option to the players. I like having more options.
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    no grenades

    why would they take out the best thing about the game? all those awesome types ;__;
    if they added nades then every1 whould just made spam just like TFC
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    I like the game a lot, it's managed to separate itself from the very generic fps market. The classes are really well balanced as well, I know some people still prefer the old engine. Why? I'll never know.
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    Im missing textures too so dont bitch about it being me...my comp has over the minimum requirements to play and download etc...it downloaded perfectly fine and its not my fault...how do i fuck up installing it when its automatic?
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    There are two admin mods available, Sourcemod and BAT both of which run off of metamod. Currently Mani is recompiling his port of his plugin from the old metamod to the new orangebox version as well so that would then mean 3. which is normal. Bad loads of maps are CLIENT, not server. If you computer did not have all the required minimum specs then you cannot complain. The required changing of names via friends list is due to the fact that Valve is Hosting all your stats due to the requirement for 360 titles to have achievements and whatnot. Keeping your Steam name as one thing is just clean and tidy for hosting stats on such a large scale as duplicate names CANNOT exist.
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