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Okay, I'm pissed at Valve. They've screwed Source up with their last updates that let you spray more accurately, and some players have figured out spray patterns like in 1.6. Now Valve releases their latest update: Bargains. On every server now when you join you will always start with 800$, there is no way to change it to like 8000$. And deagle is now 1300$??? OMFG!! The best gun has been priced higher. And every week a different gun is lowered in price, that's the dumbest idea possible. And it's always the crappy guns that are bargained like mac-10, p228, elites, ump45, xm1014. Valve has got to get their act together or I'm going to stop playing CS:S. Please comment.

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    It's actually becoming more realistic from what I gather, I do however agree with you; it's not a likeable tred, but I think that if it becomes an issue modders will unite to stabilize things.
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    No. They just need better product testing before each major overhaul update. I'm still awaiting them to fix that dx9 problem.
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    The best gun being priced higher is better, that means people are not going to use the same weapons all the time. Not accepting some changes and not adapting is a bad reason to not play a perfectly good game.

    Ok, not perfect, but good
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    I stopped playing for different reasons, CSS just plain bores me. But yeah, I'm lucky I didn't get to use this new system if it's anything like what you say it is.
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    You guys r noobs
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    Uumm all of those guns you just named owns with a great percentage, like hte mac-10 for assault, you stand on the crate upper backdoor, some ct opens door you start spraying, he dies, behind you(someone shooting you from the entrance gate, you pull out a p228, you keep moving around and shoot, he dies...
    ump45 long range accuracy with low damage(youll manage), the xm1014(noobstick) you just run around in dust2 or any cramped map...

    and i think the realistic pricing is kinda retarded as the game is already fake enough, in addition its not realistic, i dont think terrorist would buy their ak-47 from russia, the black market sells them for 500 each with a full mag
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    Posted by h4mx0r

    No. They just need better product testing before each major overhaul update. I'm still awaiting them to fix that dx9 problem.


    l have been waiting for the dam dx9 error fix to. I get it way to much. Valve needs to stop making new features and get some bugs fixed out. Not many but the ones out there are frigging annoying.
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    Posted by ZoMBoID

    Just go on deathmeatch servers if you don't like buying guns.


    If people also didn't know, The server has a choice of enabling and disabling dynamic weapon pricing.
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    Posted by ZoMBoID

    Just go on deathmeatch servers if you don't like buying guns.


    ORLY?

    CS:S needs to have updates for the lesser players
    (DX7 -.-) besides, dx7 users have an advantage in water based maps. You can see through the water and I just think that's unfair.
    DX9 nubbles D:<
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    By the way if you didnt know...

    "I don't like DWP! What can I do about it?"
    Disable it with a cvar. "mp_dynamicpricing" is the relevant one. Changing it to 0 prevents the changing of weapon prices. This means they are not altered from week to week as they will be with this cvar on. If you are running a server and changing this cvar doesn't seem to help, you should add it to all of your .cfg files. You may have to restart the server, too.
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    Hey p228 is nice ;) Hmm i think its a nice idea. But we will see maybe after a little time its boring^^
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    Why the hell are you all playing css? The graphics are nice, but the gameplay sucks. You don't need to aim, only strafe and shoot and you'll only make headshots. This is ridiculous.
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    Dumbshit all you need the skills to play the game. I think Valve has done a good job and the ir newest update is very cool.
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    The new update is cool. The dynamic pricing will be gun, but it killed zombiemod servers so i am temporarily sad.
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    Imo they ruined cs:s as soon as they made it.
    Its nothing like "real" counter strike gameplay.

    And then they go and screw it up even more by making this new crappy weapon pricing. It totaly ruins it.
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    Actually there aren't that many cheaters. However the experienced crowd from other CS versions are getting tired of 1.6 and are trying out Source, and Source isn't that difficult compared to the others.

    That is why you are dying all the time, the people you are playing against are actually GOOD. Not used to that, are you?

    Oh and by the way, money is EXTREMELY easy to get in Source, or so it feels to me. Even if I am doing crappy I always have 8k sitting there for me on $800 start servers.

    No one cares about weapon prices, since you can buy an AWP or AK or M4 every round and have PLENTY left over if you are doing well. Everyone will continue buying them.
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    Wow....all this fuss over such a shit game. When you can have 3 times the fun for $10, (CS 1.6),

    WHY BOTHER WITH THIS SHIT???!!! and whinge about it? one day the css playing nubs going "oMg i DoiNt Laik Teh NEW WAEPON PRIECS!!! They, laik, suckz0ratalizeate.!!!!11one!! i hait valve! im gonna plai theeeiir siht gaim anywayz!!!" will just make me break down and cry.
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    Posted by DW461

    Actually there aren't that many cheaters. However the experienced crowd from other CS versions are getting tired of 1.6 and are trying out Source, and Source isn't that difficult compared to the others.

    That is why you are dying all the time, the people you are playing against are actually GOOD. Not used to that, are you?


    Finaly somebody talks sense.
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    It's helped me realise that CS isn't that great. But what they're doing to it is only making it worse. Tried and tested gameplay should not be changed.
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    Valve are fucking retards, end of story.
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    To the OP:

    do you know the principle of market economics: supply and demand? We as players of CSS are demanders. Valve are suppliers. When the demand for something is high, so is the price (we like AK, M4, Deagle and AWP, hence the price for it is higher, and the demand decreases). ETC. In effect, we are now more likely to buy crappy guns becoz their price is lower.
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    Wait, I'm confused about all this...so the cops knew Internal Affairs was setting them up?
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    Man, all the weapons you named is really good! ;) But you know, I hate when on internet people only uses MP5, M4A1, AK47, AWM & Desert Eagle. That's stupid, they even don't know another weapons, only these ones I named!
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    Posted by x ZerK x

    Its nothing like "real" counter strike gameplay.

    Then 1.6 isnt "real CS gameplay too, only beta 1 -.-'
    [OT]btw all the cs1.6 players say "css sux, u just make headshots, netcode sux, luckergame, unrealistic, hitboxes r bad"
    css doesnt suck -> its ur meaning everyguy thinks otherwise
    u just make headshots -> more headshots but u need 1headshot from less guns to kill so u need 2(!!) headshots often = aim
    netcode sux -> i think most didnt just take a look at it, it is really good if u understand netcodes
    luckergame -> same as more headshots, BUT u cant spray as in cs1.6, like all the "pG"'s do
    uneralistic -> everyone can say what he wants here i think its more realistic then 1.6 (no shooting through walls, no nade-dmg through walls etc
    hitboxes -> they arent like in cs1.6 with edges at the head etc they are just at some points not on the model, most boxes are just like the model! (take a look at 1.6+css hitboxes through a model viewer and u'll see) [/OT]

    now this is gonna be a flamer thread i think but i hope it will not be...
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    Posted by x1337x

    You guys r noobs


    How are we noobs? Valve is trying to make the game more fun to play. Stop being a small cry baby, just because the prises are change. Suck it up !
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    Posted by $a!teK

    Valve are fucking retards, end of story.


    Yes, Valve are fucking retards. That's exactly why you purchased CS and probably play it like an addicted bitch. Good Job.
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    I been playing css for 2 years the first years was the best.Since then with all these updates,more people.CSS has died...You needed to play csss when it first came out thats where the fun was.People don't play css right anymore.
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    Posted by Confused

    The new update is cool. The dynamic pricing will be gun, but it killed zombiemod servers so i am temporarily sad.


    how ?
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    ZombieMod servers only use Pistols, Shotguns, and SMGs, so how exactly are they dead? The only hurt weapon in that section is really the Desert Eagle, and you don't really need one of those in ZombieMod anyways. Try a USP for once.

    ZombieHorde was always better, anyways.
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    ZombieMod servers only use Pistols, Shotguns, and SMGs, so how exactly are they dead? The only hurt weapon in that section is really the Desert Eagle, and you don't really need one of those in ZombieMod anyways. Try a USP for once.

    ZombieHorde was always better, anyways.


    Not all do, though. You can turn of rifles. My favorite zombie server has rifles turned on.

    And the new pricing system is FUCKING GREAT! It brings variety in the game other than just deagles, aks, and M4s. To where you have people using TMPs and the Galil more.
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    This whole new DWP thing is annoying yes, but free ammo is good, i guess it's just valve trying 2 procrastinate from fixing small bugs in the game by adding crap like "this weeks special" etc. i mean its still the same old game, just diff prices and a changed buy menu. i agree with u that it is annoying but we will just have to cop it and move on basically.
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    I hate these threads. Change is good, not bad, people.
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    The 'Bargains' just screwed css, serious players and clans tactics are messed due to things like buying a deagle at the start of the match, or buying an m4 after 3 rounds, because it is dearer, valve have made the game TOO realistic


    everyone will get used to it though, it's like when the new models where released and i just sat staring at my screen for 30 mins before choosing my team, i hated that day.
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    Lol noone even cares about the radar any more so stfu and wait till the next update because ill bet that nubs will complain about it and forget about this/
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    Posted by 2Shaezee

    The 'Bargains' just screwed css, serious players and clans tactics are messed due to things like buying a deagle at the start of the match, or buying an m4 after 3 rounds, because it is dearer, valve have made the game TOO realistic


    everyone will get used to it though, it's like when the new models where released and i just sat staring at my screen for 30 mins before choosing my team, i hated that day.


    Ya and btw clan servers can disable the dwp so dont fret
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    CSS sucked from the start, /end.
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    All the guy's who like/prefer the m4a1, ak47, deagle and awp are pissed off ;) Because the weapons are the most popular weapons ingame. This mean that the weapons are more expensive like the famas and galil as an example (My favourite weapons ;))
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    The hell?

    UMP .45 is an excellent weapon!
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    You people are a bunch of fags. If you hate steam, why did you buy there games? Why are you on a Valve game website? I for one think valve is the best game company on the market. The source engine may be one of the best engines out there. Also, stop bitching about how long it takes for them to put new shit out. It took them a few years to do hl2, but it was worth it. So everyone just shut up.
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    Posted by blackop773643

    You people are a bunch of fags. If you hate steam, why did you buy there games? Why are you on a Valve game website? I for one think valve is the best game company on the market. The source engine may be one of the best engines out there. Also, stop bitching about how long it takes for them to put new shit out. It took them a few years to do hl2, but it was worth it. So everyone just shut up.


    Everything disappointed me, and I don't play it anymore. HL2 or CSS. They both suck, and valve makes nothin' good. I had hopes for the games, but my hopes were shot down like a single BF109 trying to take down a F18. Oh, and in case you had not noticed this site isn't just for Valve games, and the skins may be good, but the game isn't.
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    Posted by h4mx0r

    No. They just need better product testing before each major overhaul update. I'm still awaiting them to fix that dx9 problem.


    You mean the problem with Geforce 5 cards? It doesn't really matter, those card blew anyways and you get MORE FPS with DX8 enable instead of DX9.

    Just saying =\
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    CSS is getting more different then CS 1.6, every time Valve makes an update. Valve itself doesn't suck because HL2 and DODS were good games except for taking the brits out of DODS. But Valve should of saved the work of having to change the prices every week, into something better like a new map.
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    People, there is no "Real" or "Proper" Counter strike source gameplay. CSS = NEW COUNTER STRIKE it is not meant to be 1.6 with hyped up graphics and physics! it is a completley different game, hence the DWP's.ect.ect, if they want'd it to be the same as 1.6, then it would be. stop complaining because valve want to make a new, and to some extent better game.
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    Posted by Envision

    People, there is no "Real" or "Proper" Counter strike source gameplay. CSS = NEW COUNTER STRIKE it is not meant to be 1.6 with hyped up graphics and physics! it is a completley different game, hence the DWP's.ect.ect, if they want'd it to be the same as 1.6, then it would be. stop complaining because valve want to make a new, and to some extent better game.


    Your completley Right.
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    I think its pretty cool the dynamic pricing. It's like buying it from a actual store. The guns that no one buys are priced lower so people will buy t, as the more popular weapons are priced higher because theres a high demand for them.
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    I liie the new buying system and the math thing that movies the prices around
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    A $3300 ak and a $2000 desert eagle is rediculous. Nuff said.
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    mp_dynamicpricing 0 and its off.

    It can't change Clan based gaming as its turned off on every war server.

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    I don't really care about the dynamic weapon pricing or anything like that, i just hate the way that you don't even need to aim to get a kill >.<

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    You don't need to aim, only strafe and shoot and you'll only make headshots. This is ridiculous.


    I totally agree with that
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    I know, and I don't really care about the dynamic pricing.
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