My ATI 9800 Pro sux with CSS???

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Yo, my ATI 9800 Pro does not run CSS smoothly. Even with 50-80 FPS, no lag, no choke, no loss, i still do not get smooth game play. Also i have all advanced video settings to the lowest they can go. Driver settings are at performance (with latest driver too). NE answers out there, this is frutrating. Game play is choppy! YYYYYYYY? THanks in advance! Pentium 4, 2.00GHz 512 MB RAM ATI RADEON 9800 Pro ^o^

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    I run Doom3 pretty good with settings at minimum(15-30 fps)... but I think it will be a lot better with the 3200.
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    Posted by S3NZURI>Is my card too good for my crappy machine?

    Posted by .nemes1s.>I think so S3N.


    So what should I do? Downgrade my card, to say.. GF4? Or increase RAM? Either way would cost just the same.

    And the only reason I would bother asking (why would anyone want to downgrade for the same price as an upgrade?) is because I'm not sure if RAM is the only thing I'd need.

    What shall I do?
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    The video stress test is part of the cs-source beta.... you basicaly fly through that first source demo map (that had that gothic widow with gordon in it thing, the liquid dude, the cameras...) it records ur avg fps and ur system specs and sends that to vavle.
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    I think so S3N.

    Looks like alot of you are usin' the ATI's more.
    Just keepin' it fresh.
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    P4 1.7ghz
    256mb RAM
    Radeon 9600

    Every game I play is choppy. Is my card too good for my crappy machine?

    Also, if you don't mind me asking noob questions, what's the Valve Stress Test everyone talks about?
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    Posted by .nemes1s.>I need a favour from all of you guys.

    Post your video cards and FPS you get when playing CS:S or anyother game close to CS:S if you don't have it.

    I wanna' compare mine to all.

    I thought the x800 would do good but seems like the 9600 would do just fine, not in the mood to spend $400 anyways. ;)


    P4 2000
    1 gig ram
    9600xt AIW (A little higher core and memory speed than standard 9600xt)

    64 FPS Valve video stress test on lowest settings
    15 FPS Valve video stress test on Highest settings

    In game 60-99 FPS depending whats going on, this is on lowest detail settings but I really did not notice many graphical* :roll: (is that a word?) differences in the high or low source settings it looks great either way.

    The 9800 pro which tests higher than the 9600xt is under $200 now only $50 more than the 9600xt.
    I only got the 9600xt because I wanted the AIW and the 9800 AIW was $100 more.
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    Posted by H3ADHUn73R>My 9800 pro runs it just fine on all settings maxed out.


    Ya, some peeps dont have any problems. But if you look at the link i posted previously at steam forums you will see a lot of people have this choppyness.

    I think BrutalGeorge is on the right track, its just a bug that some people experience that will hopefully be fixed very soon!

    Altough i am still bitter about the whole issue and somewhat dissapointed with ATI Radeon (for now), its my first ATI product, i thought FarCry ran excellent as well as a couple of older games that never really ran good on my Gforce4 improved greatly. But as for the Vid Card that Source was made 4 I am very dissapointed. :(
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    2.7GHz 1 gig of ram
    9600XT 1024 x 768 2X AA enabled 30-80FPS (lowest is usually 35, avg 45 --- 59avg fps on stress test- using the settings I listed)

    Ur choppieness error may be a bug that will be fixed in the future....
    im not so sure net play is a real issue, cuz the server a first connected to had a 240ms ping, and it seemed pretty smooth.

    did u start ur own game? does this still happen?
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    I need a favour from all of you guys.

    Post your video cards and FPS you get when playing CS:S or anyother game close to CS:S if you don't have it.

    I wanna' compare mine to all.

    I thought the x800 would do good but seems like the 9600 would do just fine, not in the mood to spend $400 anyways. ;)
    Just keepin' it fresh.
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    My 9800 pro runs it just fine on all settings maxed out.
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    Posted by SxRxRnR>Check your display settings in windows. Check the standard things first like: AA, AF, V-Sync. Don't just do the "performance" setting. Once you have done that, adjust your network settings in-game with cl_updaterate and cl_cmdrate. If you have cable, cmdrate should be more like 40. Also, what was the outcome of your Valve benchmark?

    What is your network connection? Cable, DSL? and what speed?

    What Dx version are you running?


    DSL 512k

    Directx 9c

    AA (App Pref - Disable in CSS), AF (set to 8x), V-Sync (App Pref - Disabled in CSS)

    Posted by BENBROWN>....what was the outcome of your Valve benchmark?

    We found these to be the best (if you are on broadband 512k or more):

    rate 20000
    cl_updaterate 30
    cl_cmdrate 30


    Valve test was 66 FPS

    Currently i have

    rate 9999
    cl_updaterate 60
    cl_cmdrate 60

    I will give what you suggested a shot.

    Posted by BrutalGeorge>With these new games, if ur fps stays above 30, then it's good.
    i got 59 FPS on that benchmarking demo


    Its wierd because my FPS are fine, up to 80 at times but averaging a mean of about 40 (including smoke and firefight situations). Even with that I get this dragging. As i spec other players I see the smooth gameplay that I want and when Im playing it jsut does not feel like that and has consistant choppyness even with high fps.

    I've been researching quite a bit on this and read in a forum that Reinstalling Steam would help since the Vid Card came in after the fact. Sounded kinda rediculous to me but have either of you heard of that?

    I really appreciate your input guys, I will try all suggestions when I get home (at work right now...it sux, electircal engineering is fun :wacko: :duhh: ). I hope it works out cause i've been waiting for CSS since E3 demo and even got the ATI 9800 just for this and HL2. What a dissapointment so far cause the game play has not been satisfactory cause I have been trippin off of the choppyness.

    Thanks again.

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    on my 9600xt 2700Mhz cpu, 1 gig ram, i play at 1024 x 768 and its just fine... i have even turned on 2x anti aliasing.
    With these new games, if ur fps stays above 30, then it's good.
    i got 59 FPS on that benchmarking demo

    when i went from 512mb to 1024, i noticed a huge difference in all my new games (Doom3, HaloCE, Unreal Tournament 2004) i think Half-Life 2 and cs-s will like having 1 gig of ram.
    In ur driver setting, make sure Anti Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering are set to 'application preference'
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    Check your display settings in windows. Check the standard things first like: AA, AF, V-Sync. Don't just do the "performance" setting. Once you have done that, adjust your network settings in-game with cl_updaterate and cl_cmdrate. If you have cable, cmdrate should be more like 40. Also, what was the outcome of your Valve benchmark?

    What is your network connection? Cable, DSL? and what speed?

    What Dx version are you running?
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    My 9600xt gives me choppy play once and awhile but after I restart it's fine.
    I also have P4 2.0
    1 gig ram (But I didn't notice any performance jump when I went from 512 to 1024)

    Do you have alot of other programs running?
    You could try running Ad-aware and spybot with the lastest definitions to get rid of any background garbage.

    FIX for most of the lag issues
    After being fed up of really poor FPS and insane lag on servers some clan mates decided to try the best network settings for source.

    We found these to be the best (if you are on broadband 512k or more):

    rate 20000
    cl_updaterate 30
    cl_cmdrate 30
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