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A Suggestion for Hard Difficulty in CL

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Hey, first of all, I would like to say that this is my first post in this forum. I just downloaded CL last night, and although having the full Steam version of CS 1.6, managed to get it working fine after some random downloads (please update the installation guide on the main page for Steam users. The only way I could get it to work was downloading CS1.5 full and installing it to Steam's HL directory, but this should work for everyone.) Anyways, I love the concept of the mod because I've always enjoyed realistic weaponary, and being able to play through HL with CS weapons is just right up my alley. Thanks to the developers for sacrificing their time for this wonderful project. Anyways, the reason I'm really posting here is because I don't believe that the hard difficulty is difficult enough in standard CL. I only have played for an hour or two so far, but it quickly became apparent to me that CL was even easier, much easier, than HL. Even on hard difficulty, it is no problem to get an MP5 about 10 minutes after you start killing stuff. This is just Too Good. In HL, you didn't manage to get automatic weapons until you encountered marines, and for good reason. Now, I realize that there are other people on these forums who have released packs greatly increasing the difficulty, for example, of marines and assassins, but this requires a lot of time and effort. I also realize that maybe later in the game (Xen obviously) the game gets much harder, as I haven't been there yet. However, from what I've seen and read, it doesn't look that way. I propose that only a few, simple balancing changes need to be made. First of all, on hard difficulty, you should only be able to carry two primary weapons, a sidearm, knife and nades. This better conforms with the "realism" aspect of the game coming from CS, but also just makes sense. It forces you to more closely evaluate your weaponary instead of having access to everything. Secondly, ammo maxes (and maybe grenade maxes) should be lower than in lower difficulties so that conserving ammo can become an issue. Thirdly, the money system should be changed so that you get far less money per kill. You should not be able to own an automatic weapon when all you're meeting is headcrabs. Now, I know next-to-nothing of programming, but it seems to me that these changes would be relatively easy to implement and could add a much greater degree of challenge to the game. Please consider implementing these propositions into a future patch.

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    Until Seven and I fully agree, the *Slient Beep* screenshot won't be posted.
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    The Silent Beep strikes again. USA is rumored to be replacing their nuclear arsenal with this new beeping weapon... What it looks like and its firepower is yet unknown. Because the silent beep is too silent.
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    This is driving me crazy! Maybe because you are.... crazy SHUT-UP! No. NOW! Why? Because! Because why? BEcause I have an M4 and a loaded clip and your name in it! I got a m249 and a whole box full of your name. GRRR! *walks in anger* SHHH! You here that! YAYAYA I know!!!. *SILENT BEEP* Its a ....... Jimmy? JIMMY! Its got ME!!!!!!!!!! WHAT!!!! *comes out from behind a wall* IT THE *SILENT BEEP*!!!!!! *jumps out of his pants* DAMN IT JIMMY!!!!!! Knock it off!! No. *GRR!* More coming./
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    Seven, the *silent beep* has been done. Hopefully I can find it somewhere.
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    Ha, yea Seven! i would like to see that :)
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    Lol, I should script that dialog into my next CLHD pack as a grunt's map specific narroration in single player, lol. Record two different people arguing reading those lines. ( HG_Civvies, Arguing, etc ) Lol, just a thought. It's be an inside joke =P
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    ? A *silent beep*? SHHH! You hear that..... No. Listen. Nothing. Just listen. I don't.... SHUTUP! Well how am I spost to hear with you saying SHUTUP!. SHUTUP!. You! No You!!!. I want to hear the *silent beep*.! THERE IS NO BEEP.!!!!! A *silent beep* is where you can't hear it. Well it has to be somthing. A silent beep has to be somthing. WHAT IS IT THEN. Silent..... *hide a laugh* Grrr!. Why am I stuck with you on patrol! Because your scared of the dark. AM NOT! Are too! Not! TO! NOT! ............. .......... Any the story goes on.
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    Originally posted by Haunter Next on my list, *silent beep*. Hang in there Seven, your *silent beep* will be done by tonight.
    Silent beep... Hmmm, I have heard of the Silent Hunter, what will this thing do, beep us to death? HAHAHA. Don't worry there, I got a good look over Silent people... Matrox company is one of them, too bad they leak and and I am ALL over it.
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    Next on my list, *silent beep*. Hang in there Seven, your *silent beep* will be done by tonight.
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    Originally posted by End Of Days It is tons better the the defualt. *BARF*
    Never got time to notice, too busy spraying blood and yellow white blood on the walls...
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    It is tons better the the defualt. *BARF*
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    Everyone are crazy about wallpuffs... Hehehe... Still miss DeluXe though.
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    Never mind. That was just a though to add to the overflowing bag of CL ideas. As long of the wallpuffs are back I'm happy.:apc::apc::apc:
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    oooo, Wallpuffs - I've been wanting to see those in Counter-Life SINCE I got here, lol. Excelent work, Boss :D
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    Originally posted by End Of Days How about particial muzzle flashs like it The Specialist and Action Half Life. The wall puff are back!. DO I HAVE to d/l the lastest version of CS to play CL6.0?
    Doubt it, at least I won't do that.
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    How about particial muzzle flashs like it The Specialist and Action Half Life. The wall puff are back!. DO I HAVE to d/l the lastest version of CS to play CL6.0?
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    The legendary wallpuff's they are a legend around here now I suppose. You have been talking about them since... Well, before S7 came over.
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    Welcome, welcome. As the first timer in our forums, let me show you what's in store for Beta 6:
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    Oh, Evil Before I forget, welcome to the forums. I look forward to hearing more indepth feedback from you in the future. Detailed threads always catch my attention as it demonstrates a high level of interest in our work. Thank you for your support
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    In response to the above mentioned post: Counter-Life doesn't make the game any easier in terms of offensive opposition. The Default skill file included with the Counter-Life installation is exactly as the original Half-life states. There are no changes. The only difference is that your weapons ( As a player ) are much more powrerful then the default HL weapons. The enemy unit's life and damage is based from those default weapons. They are not based from Counter-Strike. So, as you can see the game would get easier in a sense because Counter-Life weapons are based on the princible of deathmatch and teamplay vs Human Oppoenents. That's why I have released packs that coenside with Counter-Life beta releases to improve on exactly what you have just stated. The Packs that I make are not some randomly contributed compilation that someone just cooked up. I am on the Counter-Life team and I know the mod from the belly of the beast to the tip of it's horned pecker. I would suggest that you download the latest CLHD Pack when it is uploaded to the servers. The current version does increase the difficulty of play considerably. The pack changes many of the feartures in Counter-Life and is an update of sorts. However, the current version listed is still not the latest as I am working on a much improved version that will be released along side ( or included with ) the Counter-Life 6.0 beta. CL 6.0 beta will introduce client side weapons and new enemy units for multiplayer cooperative play. It will feature dozens of tweaks and changes to enemy units including a new armor system. Numermous changes will take place with weapon RPM and accuracy, added weapons from Counter-Strike Condition Zero. ( Galil & FAMAS ) We are also hoping to introduce working player Flashbangs that actually effect the enemy AI, blinding and deafening them for a short period of time. There are so many changes that are comming off the drawing board lately I cannot even go over all of them. All I can say is that if you like Counter-Life now - You're in for a hell of a treat come it's next release. Stay tuned for future updates and CLHD compilation packs.
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