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What is "Creative" and "Effort"?

A Forum Thread for Sonic 3 A.I.R

Please just stop.

So something happened YET again in this community. Now, we don't want to become a crap fire, so let's break down what's creative and what's not first.

So skin mods, let's take two examples, both of them redesign Sonic. One changes Sonic's blues to a yellow tone, the other one changes Sonic's design so he's more akin to looking like Sonic Generations style Sonic. Now, the palette one is very simple to create. Just change some colors. Is it fun to play as? No, you're still playing boring old Sonic but he accidentally got dropped in some acid.

So how about Generations Sonic? Well, it changes the design of Sonic, it's more "Effort" to create that than the palette swap, since you need to create all the sprites and possibly even a new palette to go alongside it (while keeping the sprites) . And I see it as more fun than "Sonic but haha he's green now".

Look, it's a little disappointing that your mod got withheld/trashed. But look at it and ask your fricken self "Is it good?", think real hard about it. If the answer is no, than it's better off to leave it alone.

And hey, you can script, rawdata, and do level layout mods instead, they're more fun and mind challenging to create than green sonic. And you'll learn something out of it that could be useful in the future as well! And for those Sonic Boll-ists, there's a reason as to that rule in your domain and it's to not clog up the mod pages with "Green Sonic" or "Sonic but he has the palette of Tails".

Happy modding!
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    I like my mod its simple and fun and I want others to play it too
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    Welp, idk if my mods can be considered good, but the people liked it and i even modded the rawdata in all of them, so tell me in your opinion if it's fair they get withelded.
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    i didnt start modding this game and i feel like jesus christ a chaos is starting?
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    i trashed my thread, trash this too and let's pretend this never happened.
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    so your telling me if i were to make a mod out of this it would be "low effort"
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    Fine I will back down it doesnt share the same beliefs I have but I know I cant change anything.

     but uh if anyone wants this to be forgotten about and placed in the past then maybe delete all the posts that started a lot of this. If you do then that probably will let me move on and just repost the new rules post so it doesnt have the comments dragging it down this part is mainly focused on mcginis so maybe also delete this one idk if everyone else agrees on this last part I just think its a way to get rid of the chaos from gamebanna.
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    very informative, that are some good complains right here.
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    I'm honestly glad you made this post, thanks for clearing things up for everyone. Some people just don't know what the difference between low and good effort is sometimes, so they just go attack the rules because of it..
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  • Well said Airway. 
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  • I agree. If it's just a palette swap then that's easy to do. Just pull it up in GraphicsGale and change the colors. If it has more effort, it giving the characters bigger eyes or something like that, then it should stay. I get why some people wouldn't like using Gimp, but GraphicsGale is way faster and easier.
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    Consider the people who actually want recolours and basic mods. Let me summarize the community here in 4 sentences.

    "Hi guys this is a very faithful and cool Master System Palette, hope you-" 

    "This skin was trashed"  

    "Hi this is Angel island but orange sky and water" 

    "Mod accepted keep up the great work bud"
    Ooo wow there's "Some level design changes" wow i could have never known! What do i do with mine then? Recolour sonic red and green and ALSO change up the base levels a bit? Is THAT how recolours work now?
    Let's be honest, this modding community is a shitshow and it's all the rules' fault.
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    There goes my Playdoh Mod lmao, probably might make custom sprites for it if i ever feel like doing so. But tbh i prefer to work on better mods. Can't say i didn't took an effort with that mod tho.
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    whats the problem with recolors? they have a use.
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    why am i getting notifications for this, i dont even exist in this community
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