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A new Counter-Strike game.

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    It better not have hats and all that random shit that TF2 has. I don't know about anybody else, but I prefer my Counter Strike to be just that, Counter Strike; not loaded with random items and trading. Also with the success of CS:S, I honestly thought that this would have happened earlier.
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    After 7 years, this happens.
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    I have high hopes.

    Also, I'm lolling at 1.3/1.5/1.6 elitists bashing it already.
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    Here's another article written by Torbull.
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    It's a Valve game, so it should at least be playable. Though, I really am not that interested. CS 1.6, CZ, and CS:S already have more than enough offerings for fun.
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    Looks interesting, I hope it has hats.
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    Just to let you know, this isn't a sequel to CS. This is merely another Condition Zero.
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    OK, cool, maybe I'll try it, but I'll continue playing CS1.6 until Armageddon :D
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    > **Posted by Matuka**

    > Just to let you know, this isn't a sequel to CS. This is merely another Condition Zero.

    Difference being?
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    Sorry I didn't get this up sooner guys! I've only just got home from surfing. here is the press release we got from valve a few hours ago.
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    > **Posted by Jonny-higgins**

    > Sorry I didn't get this up sooner guys! I've only just got home from surfing. here is the press release we got from valve a few hours ago.

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    This is great! A CS for PS3! Pour some out that they do cross platform multiplayer.

    I loved CS 12 years ago and I still do to this day.
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    > **Posted by BrainZ**

    > > **Posted by Matuka**
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    > > Just to let you know, this isn't a sequel to CS. This is merely another Condition Zero.
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    > Difference being?

    It's not a direct sequel to Counter-Strike, it's a spin off. Like Halo ODST.
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    So it's a CS campaign then? Meh. I'll put that on the top of my must pirate list.

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    I wont be interested till I see a trailer and deliberate it's awesomeness from that.
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    > **Posted by Matuka**

    > > **Posted by BrainZ**
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    > > > **Posted by Matuka**
    > >
    > > > Just to let you know, this isn't a sequel to CS. This is merely another Condition Zero.
    > >
    > > Difference being?
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    > It's not a direct sequel to Counter-Strike, it's a spin off. Like Halo ODST.

    I find that hard to say about a game with no story at all. I also wouldn't call ODST a spin-off. I'd call Halo Wars a spin-off in comparison to the Halo franchise.

    Where are you people getting the information that it has campaign? The only thing I read was that it's basically on a newer version on the engine, improved graphics, added weapons, added game modes and slightly altered gameplay overall. And also that there's going to be emphasis on 5v5 competitive play.

    Edit: and matchmaking and bla bla bla. Just CS with added features.
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    > **Posted by Matuka**

    > Just to let you know, this isn't a sequel to CS. This is merely another Condition Zero.

    Oh fuck to that.
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    > **Posted by Zakk**

    > I wont be interested till I see a trailer and deliberate it's awesomeness from that.

    Agreed. I'm thinking it's going to be the same as CS:S, just with better lookin guns.
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    > **Posted by BrainZ**

    > > **Posted by Matuka**
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    > > > **Posted by BrainZ**
    > >
    > > > > **Posted by Matuka**
    > > >
    > > > > Just to let you know, this isn't a sequel to CS. This is merely another Condition Zero.
    > > >
    > > > Difference being?
    > >
    > > It's not a direct sequel to Counter-Strike, it's a spin off. Like Halo ODST.
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    > I find that hard to say about a game with no story at all. I also wouldn't call ODST a spin-off. I'd call Halo Wars a spin-off in comparison to the Halo franchise.
    >
    > Where are you people getting the information that it has campaign? The only thing I read was that it's basically on a newer version on the engine, improved graphics, added weapons, added game modes and slightly altered gameplay overall. And also that there's going to be emphasis on 5v5 competitive play.
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    > Edit: and matchmaking and bla bla bla. Just CS with added features.

    wait wait wait... matchmaking?? I was afraid that a new CS would be some crap but it seems to turn more and more out to be a reality..
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    Nope, it's going to be bad. No servers = fail. The fact that they are thinking about adding ranks, is an automatic failure. Why does valve want to compete with COD by making another version of it? WHY DONT'T YOU JUST STICK TO THE VANILLA STUFF? IT TASTES SO GOOD QQ
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    > **Posted by Dr.iCe**

    > wait wait wait... matchmaking?? I was afraid that a new CS would be some crap but it seems to turn more and more out to be a reality..

    It could still be optional. One does not rule out the other. This is the case with L4D and L4D2, though it can be more elegant than there and just have a server browser, as something like that won't work in L4D. You can't just pop in a running game like you can with TF2 and CSS. So I imagine they'll keep it both. There's no harm in having the feature if you're not obliged to use it.
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    > **Posted by Sparks**

    > Nope, it's going to be bad. No servers = fail. The fact that they are thinking about adding ranks, is an automatic failure. Why does valve want to compete with COD by making another version of it? WHY DONT'T YOU JUST STICK TO THE VANILLA STUFF? IT TASTES SO GOOD QQ

    It has dedicated servers.
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    > **Posted by BrainZ**

    > > **Posted by Matuka**
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    > > > **Posted by BrainZ**
    > >
    > > > > **Posted by Matuka**
    > > >
    > > > > Just to let you know, this isn't a sequel to CS. This is merely another Condition Zero.
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    > > > Difference being?
    > >
    > > It's not a direct sequel to Counter-Strike, it's a spin off. Like Halo ODST.
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    > I find that hard to say about a game with no story at all. I also wouldn't call ODST a spin-off. I'd call Halo Wars a spin-off in comparison to the Halo franchise.
    >
    > Where are you people getting the information that it has campaign? The only thing I read was that it's basically on a newer version on the engine, improved graphics, added weapons, added game modes and slightly altered gameplay overall. And also that there's going to be emphasis on 5v5 competitive play.
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    > Edit: and matchmaking and bla bla bla. Just CS with added features.

    BrainZ, now you're confusing me. You don't really live up to your name do you? :p

    I said nothing about campaign. If you recognize CZ as just being CS with a "Campaign" in the form of deleted scenes then I think you might need a updated crash course on the CS franchise. As said, it's just a spin-off, not a direct sequel that people have been looking for.

    Also thank you for your reference to Halo Wars, that's a much better way of saying it. CS:GO will be like CS:CZ, a spin-off just made for the money.
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    I always thought it would be a dumb idea to make another CS, given that CSS is the most popular online shooter... you know, ever, and they wouldn't want to screw it up. Also, seeing as they have Portal 2 out and Dota 2 is coming, they might do a Half Life game next. But what do I know? I hope to be proven wrong, at least.
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    > **Posted by Matuka**

    > I said nothing about campaign. If you recognize CZ as just being CS with a "Campaign" in the form of deleted scenes then I think you might need a updated crash course on the CS franchise. As said, it's just a spin-off, not a direct sequel that people have been looking for.
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    > Also thank you for your reference to Halo Wars, that's a much better way of saying it. CS:GO will be like CS:CZ, a spin-off just made for the money.

    I wasn't talking to you about the campaign, someone else said that. I know the difference between CZ and CZDS. I just find it hard to call CZ a spin-off when in my eyes it's just CS with added features. CZDS however, is a spin-off in my eyes.

    ---

    I just remembered something. Take a look at TF2. It now has _kind of_ a matchmaking system next to the regular server browser. I have no doubts it will be the same with CS:GO.
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    Based off of what i read and heard its going to be total arcdy shit that will be just as bad if not worse than modern warfare 2 and black ops >>

    1 It wholly unrealistic which means it wont be tactical and therefore its not going to be really competitive nor team based as most ppl will just do their own thing as seen in CS:S

    2 no iron sights for a so called classic feel which is bullshit. if they were smart they would have done what Firearms Source 2.0 did by making iron sight optional.

    here are some example vids on their moddb page and the concept is original and it works.

    http://www.moddb.com/mods/firearmssource/news/springing-into-action

    http://www.moddb.com/mods/firearmssource/videos/firearms-source-suppressor-showcase#imagebox

    http://www.moddb.com/mods/firearmssource/videos/firearms-source-uzi-demonstration#imagebox

    other unrealistic and retarded idea i hate are the "decoy grenade" which emits random weapons sounds and the new Molotov cocktail that as far as i know does not set its targets on fire but instead just slows the enemy players down a bit >>

    Basically Valve has whored the shit out of every thing CS for the sake of profit and not gameplay. To me all CS:GO = is CS:S with some graphical updates, minor tweaks, & a few new shitty weapon tweaks and ideas.

    I take this as a sign in the gradually degrading quality of Valve games and Valves deathbed in the long run. I doubt that even HL Episode 3 will be enough to save the company in the long run. They are going to have to and probably are planing something in the works to have a miracle to save them but still its quite the risk and im having doubts about their ability to pull it off.

    So to Valve I say an early bid farewell and RIP as you were epic while you lasted >>
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    > **Posted by Phenixtri**
    > Basically Valve has whored the shit out of every thing CS for the sake of profit and not gameplay. To me all CS:GO = is CS:S with some graphical >updates, minor tweaks, & a few new shitty weapon tweaks and ideas.>>

    Seriously, Valve just announced it a few days ago, without any screenshot or any other media, and you already claim it's the same as CS:S?
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    > **Posted by Teh Frohwner**

    > > **Posted by Phenixtri**
    > > Basically Valve has whored the shit out of every thing CS for the sake of profit and not gameplay. To me all CS:GO = is CS:S with some graphical >updates, minor tweaks, & a few new shitty weapon tweaks and ideas.>>
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    > Seriously, Valve just announced it a few days ago, without any screenshot or any other media, and you already claim it's the same as CS:S?

    ^This
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    Its been floating around for at least a year and its only just recently been confirmed. all my point are based on the current available data and the rest is educated speculation. In short its not very promising and most of the retarded features are already confirmed by Valve like no iron sights for example. So far its sounds just like CS:S with graphical upgrades and some new weird weapons, new maps, and new game modes but over all there is nothing significantly new nor ground breaking based off of the current data. And I say minor graphical updates due to the fact that Valve always simplifies their models to optimize game play.

    CS was the most popular game back in the day because it was fairly realistic "for 1990s standards" and because it was the 1st true team based multiplayer and tactical game out there. This new version again based off of the current data just sounds like another half assed projected with no real potential as a serious game especially by today's standards.

    The only was for it to become a great hit like its predecessors is for it to go more towards the tactical semi realistic team based FPS game and not some generic CS remake with a few new bells and whistles as it is so far portrayed as.

    All this information just point to another half assed game like Half Life Source was and this is very disappointing as we all know Valve can do much much better than that if they wanted to.
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    > **Posted by Phenixtri**

    > Based off of what i read and heard its going to be total arcdy shit that will be just as bad if not worse than modern warfare 2 and black ops >>
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    > 1 It wholly unrealistic which means it wont be tactical and therefore its not going to be really competitive nor team based as most ppl will just do their own thing as seen in CS:S
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    > 2 no iron sights for a so called classic feel which is bullshit. if they were smart they would have done what Firearms Source 2.0 did by making iron sight optional.
    >
    > here are some example vids on their moddb page and the concept is original and it works.
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    > http://www.moddb.com/mods/firearmssource/news/springing-into-action
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    > http://www.moddb.com/mods/firearmssource/videos/firearms-source-suppressor-showcase#imagebox
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    > http://www.moddb.com/mods/firearmssource/videos/firearms-source-uzi-demonstration#imagebox
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    > other unrealistic and retarded idea i hate are the "decoy grenade" which emits random weapons sounds and the new Molotov cocktail that as far as i know does not set its targets on fire but instead just slows the enemy players down a bit >>
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    > Basically Valve has whored the shit out of every thing CS for the sake of profit and not gameplay. To me all CS:GO = is CS:S with some graphical updates, minor tweaks, & a few new shitty weapon tweaks and ideas.
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    > I take this as a sign in the gradually degrading quality of Valve games and Valves deathbed in the long run. I doubt that even HL Episode 3 will be enough to save the company in the long run. They are going to have to and probably are planing something in the works to have a miracle to save them but still its quite the risk and im having doubts about their ability to pull it off.
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    > So to Valve I say an early bid farewell and RIP as you were epic while you lasted >>

    I hate to be the one to say this, but you are a fucking idiot.

    1. Why does it matter if it's realistic? You don't even know if it will be because you haven't seen anything about the game yet other than very vague details released thus far. The game will be very competitive, just like 1.6 and CSS.

    2.No Iron sights is a good thing, first of all the maps in Counter-Strike are generally too small for that type of thing. Second, why should they conform to be like all the other fps games out there? They want it to be COUNTER-STRIKE not the same ass shit most other fps games are these days.

    3. The decoy grenade is a great idea because it adds a whole new tactic to the gameplay, throwing one of those somewhere else before your team rushes in will be awesome. It's very unlikely the molotov which is made of FIRE won't set people on fire or atleast damage them, thinking that makes no sense what so ever.

    I love it how you are condemning a company for a game we know pretty much nothing about so far, only the shitty assumptions you are making.
    I mean hell, I love it how you know the gameplay is bad even though there's no gameplay videos yet, you must be physic or something.

    I also love it how you're acting as if over the years Valve's games have become shitty or something. Let's see here..

    Half life 2 and Episodes 1 and 2 sold very well, and people enjoy them, so still doing good there..

    Team Fortress 2 sold great and is still played by a lot of people, so they didn't mess up on that game either.

    Counter-Strike: Source has obviously sold very well and is played by a ton of people.

    Left 4 Dead 1/2 did really good aswell.

    Portal and Portal 2 also did extremely well, the quality,story and gameplay of 2 was great and considering how recent that game is I can say without a doubt that their ability to make great games is just as good as ever, if not better.

    Everything you posted about holds no ground what so ever, it was just preemptive bitching.
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    Ironsights would definitely spoil CS for me.

    EDIT: Amen practically said everything I wanted to >.>
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    inb4 50 bucks game ololo
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    if you dont like the idea...dont paly it and go back to 1.6\source that you have been playing.

    everyone needs to stop bashing, hating, and geting upset for nothing. valve is just trying somthing different. and im excited for them. i loved almost all their games and im sure they wont disappoint. valve knows wtf there doing....

    all in all, 1.6 and source will always be the classic CS that everyone loves. if you dont like the idea, go back to playing the classic games =]
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    I just stated my opinions based off of the existing information. >>

    I for one WANT CS to be more realistic as the original CS games like 1.3-1.6 were semi realistic given the limitations for the time.

    And the realism isn't a bad thing and it would also be original. There are hardly any retail tactical based games out there that are realistic "ARMA and OPF being minor exceptions" out there. Modern Warfare AKA modern shit is just another arcady casual FPS shooter that really isn't modern "uber tactical and fictional looking guns don't count" nor realistic. BF3 will be the same seeing as the are going to market the game to the casual gamer audience as well thus making it inevitably "over balanced, simplified to an extent, and dumbed down.

    And even the currently existing realism based games and mods out there like BF2 PR 0.96 and the ARMA series do not focus on small scale squad V squad tactical & team based combat.

    I was having high hopes for a new CS game by Valve but so far its rather disappointing.

    For now ill just stick with FA Source as its showing more potential than CS:GO. >> Ill revise my opinions once more info comes out but again based off of what was already confirmed by Valve and the company's past record with games and more specifically game play "HL:S comes to mind" all I can do is forecast bad vibes from this :/
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    As a hardcore YouTuber,I'm going to throw this in from what I've heard from a guy,who's part of the COD and CS community.His friend was invited to test a closed alpha of the game itself.From what he noticed is that the graphics were really astonishing for a game at this stage.The game doesn't play like CS:S nor like 1.6,it's something between both,which he was impressed from.New weapons have been confirmed by him including new LMG and pistols.He didn't mentioned anything new for the AR,SMG or Shotgun slots.Molotov cocktail is one of the new guns in the game,which is interesting.And the decoy grenade,which has already been mentioned above.
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    > **Posted by Phenixtri**

    > I just stated my opinions based off of the existing information. >>
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    > I for one WANT CS to be more realistic as the original CS games like 1.3-1.6 were semi realistic given the limitations for the time.
    >
    > And the realism isn't a bad thing and it would also be original. There are hardly any retail tactical based games out there that are realistic "ARMA and OPF being minor exceptions" out there. Modern Warfare AKA modern shit is just another arcady casual FPS shooter that really isn't modern "uber tactical and fictional looking guns don't count" nor realistic. BF3 will be the same seeing as the are going to market the game to the casual gamer audience as well thus making it inevitably "over balanced, simplified to an extent, and dumbed down.
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    > And even the currently existing realism based games and mods out there like BF2 PR 0.96 and the ARMA series do not focus on small scale squad V squad tactical & team based combat.
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    > I was having high hopes for a new CS game by Valve but so far its rather disappointing.
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    > For now ill just stick with FA Source as its showing more potential than CS:GO. >> Ill revise my opinions once more info comes out but again based off of what was already confirmed by Valve and the company's past record with games and more specifically game play "HL:S comes to mind" all I can do is forecast bad vibes from this :/

    realistic shooters will never realy make it to casual gamers. it takes a different mind-set that most people are to ADD and hyper active to play. people like us, that play those realistic shooters are few in numbers. and valve defiantly has its eye on the main steam crowd (COD,Battlefield players). because it sells like crazy, and they would have to worry about sales.

    after all, valve doesn't take to many risks. but i would love a super realistic CS.....maby one day. i think everyone should give valve a chance with this one, im sure its going to be so fun everyone who bashed it is guna laugh at themselves. =P
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    > **Posted by Phenixtri**

    > I just stated my opinions based off of the existing information. >>
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    > I for one WANT CS to be more realistic as the original CS games like 1.3-1.6 were semi realistic given the limitations for the time.
    >
    > And the realism isn't a bad thing and it would also be original. There are hardly any retail tactical based games out there that are realistic "ARMA and OPF being minor exceptions" out there. Modern Warfare AKA modern shit is just another arcady casual FPS shooter that really isn't modern "uber tactical and fictional looking guns don't count" nor realistic. BF3 will be the same seeing as the are going to market the game to the casual gamer audience as well thus making it inevitably "over balanced, simplified to an extent, and dumbed down.
    >
    > And even the currently existing realism based games and mods out there like BF2 PR 0.96 and the ARMA series do not focus on small scale squad V squad tactical & team based combat.
    >
    > I was having high hopes for a new CS game by Valve but so far its rather disappointing.
    >
    > For now ill just stick with FA Source as its showing more potential than CS:GO. >> Ill revise my opinions once more info comes out but again based off of what was already confirmed by Valve and the company's past record with games and more specifically game play "HL:S comes to mind" all I can do is forecast bad vibes from this :/

    How is this anything like Half-Life source? Hell, Half-Life source is exactly what the name claims it to be. Half Life on the Source engine, it never claimed to be a new game with new maps,weapons or any of that stuff, it is what it's claimed to be.

    Considering they are making Counter-Strike and not Arma I'm pretty sure Valve wants the game to remain in the style of past Counter-Strike games because that's what they want, and I'm pretty certain what most CS players want. If Valve were to release a Counter-Strike game that was completely different from teh old ones with big maps, iron sights and so on people would be like "What the fuck is this? This isn't Counter-Strike, they should of named it something else!" blah blah blah. Counter-Strike is Counter-Strike, and it should remain that way.

    Also, on your comment about BF3, it's good they market it to casual gamers and not 'hardcore' people. I for one, along with most gamers aren't pretentious cunts who play only for score and to show how badass they are in a game. I play for fun. I don't want extreme realism and unbalanced guns as you seem to want. Unbalanced guns are terrible, look at Blackops. The Battlefield series has always been great for that, anyone can play and enjoy themselves and teamwork is a very important thing because a bunch of lone rambos cannot win.
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    If I had the time id make it as a mod on my own :/ I have the whole thing planed out ... from features to factions and game play have everything planned out. Got it in my projects notebook. Got it listed as CS Reborn but maybe CS Redux or Reality Mod would be better :/

    Also I don't play for a "score" or any other bullshit like that. I just prefer realistic games as im sick and tired of shooting fucks in the head and not kill them or die because of some retarded features like moving hotboxes and shitty reg.

    Realism to an extent ensures stable game play with no WTF bullshit moments. It also keeps the game fair, logical, and balanced "but not over balanced".
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    Working hitboxes isn't really an added thing to realism, I'd say it's just because that's been a constant bug that's never been fully fixed in Source.
    There's no way they are going to release another game with shit hitboxes considering they are gearing it towards competitive gamers.

    In my opinion they are probably going to take the best out of 1.6, CZ and Source and add in some new stuff.
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    > **Posted by Logan Dougall**

    > Regenerating health. I'm calling it.

    I don't think so. At least not on PC version.
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    i found in here also:
    http://www.gamefront.com/valve-confirms-new-counter-strike/

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