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why is everyone hating?

Okay, why is it that every where i go, there are trolls saying that the new update is bad. Random post on youtube on a css beta quality test: "The commpetative source will be destroyed... by this update." Seriously, what the hell. Nothing is getting ruined, it is the same freakin' game but with well-needed updates. All the people who play it say that it is basically the same gameplay. So, to wrap it up, what is with all the trolls?

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    Bugs became the norm, an update then upsets that norm, thus riots ensue.

    Not too complicated really.
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    Because for what ever reason, people are extremely closed-minded and hate change, and most others just wanna be original and hate it because everyone else likes it. lol

    Everyone loved it at first, and as you read on the thread, more and more people started hating it. Kind of funny, actually.
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    Sv_accelerate was broken.
    Some maps have bugs.
    They made things too cartoony and got rid of the old CS:S feel, it takes you out of the game rather than indulging you in it more.
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    Posted by KaT_FisH

    Sv_accelerate was broken.
    Some maps have bugs.
    They made things too cartoony and got rid of the old CS:S feel, it takes you out of the game rather than indulging you in it more.


    How are things cartoony?

    But, if you want to see whats all in the beta Click here
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    In communist russia, update destroyes you

    Well the exact reason why a lot of people hate it,
    (including me) is the fact that the updates give the game a cartoonish style.
    I don't like the achievements idea in the game, neither do I like the new scoreboard.
    The main reason I don't like the new scoreboard is because of domination.
    It's pretty annoying if you are getting dominated in a war.
    And if it is displayed on the scoreboard. Damn it makes me shamefull.
    Well this is how it is, atleast it is for me.
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    Posted by Sarkdog

    In communist russia, update destroyes you

    Well the exact reason why a lot of people hate it,
    (including me) is the fact that the updates give the game a cartoonish style.
    I don't like the achievements idea in the game, neither do I like the new scoreboard.
    The main reason I don't like the new scoreboard is because of domination.
    It's pretty annoying if you are getting dominated in a war.
    And if it is displayed on the scoreboard. Damn it makes me shamefull.
    Well this is how it is, atleast it is for me.


    How exactly does a new scoreboard make a game cartoony?
    It never was the most realistic game to start with.
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    Okay, so these is the only reasons for hating it i got so far:

    1.) People are afraid (or hate) change.
    2.) People start hating it because everyone liked it (?)

    None of the other reasons i have been given are really good ones. They are about things like preferrability that can be solved by simply changing layouts or fixing the bugs that will not appear in the final release
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    My main problem is it adds virtually nothing to the game (just a few trivial achievments) and yet threatens to make skins and mods and maps incompatible. That's not what you need in an old community

    That and the killcam in public doesn't make sense with the round based nature. It just adds another thing on by default that most don't want.

    It takes out bhopping which is now a dedicated game and map type. The zBlock plugin already removed bhopping but was optional, this takes away that option.

    There's a bunch of reasons
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    Id rather just stick to the normal CS S for now. Although the improved registration is a nice touch.
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    New update is fun.

    And nobody cares about competitive gaming. Derp derp.
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    Posted by gameripper

    My main problem is it adds virtually nothing to the game (just a few trivial achievments) and yet threatens to make skins and mods and maps incompatible. That's not what you need in an old community

    I'm pretty sure its just the beta not loading custom content, if you look at the gcf files you can see that it still uses the same filesystem and the weapon models for example are identical.
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    Posted by gameripper

    My main problem is it adds virtually nothing to the game (just a few trivial achievments) and yet threatens to make skins and mods and maps incompatible. That's not what you need in an old community

    That and the killcam in public doesn't make sense with the round based nature. It just adds another thing on by default that most don't want.

    It takes out bhopping which is now a dedicated game and map type. The zBlock plugin already removed bhopping but was optional, this takes away that option.

    There's a bunch of reasons

    ok for the bunny hop you stumpped me, but the killcam can be removed via multiplayer>advanced
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    ok for the bunny hop you stumpped me, but the killcam can be removed via multiplayer>advanced


    Is there a server side block command? I mean it has to be removed or it destroys competitive matching.

    And why make it default? Why not make it optional but off by default since it's not a good thing, it's pointless in a round based game.
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    Posted by gameripper

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    ok for the bunny hop you stumpped me, but the killcam can be removed via multiplayer>advanced


    Is there a server side block command? I mean it has to be removed or it destroys competitive matching.

    And why make it default? Why not make it optional but off by default since it's not a good thing, it's pointless in a round based game.

    KAC can block out commands such as r_drawothermodels etc, that means that if KAC gets a update to the beta/new vers, that means that the server can block all usage of the deathcam command. Could result in being banned from the server however.
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    ok for the bunny hop you stumpped me, but the killcam can be removed via multiplayer>advanced


    Is there a server side block command? I mean it has to be removed or it destroys competitive matching.

    And why make it default? Why not make it optional but off by default since it's not a good thing, it's pointless in a round based game.


    Just like in any other Valve game with this feature, the servers can turn it off, as I said in my review, and in afew other threads on this subject.
    I've been in tons of Beta servers, only one of them has had the deathcam enabled.
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    On top of that I question them taking out the ability to have a custom name seperate to your steam name, it's always been a frustration.

    And Amen, if only one server had the cam enabled have you considered that it should be default off not on? It's just another dumb cvar that needs setting to 0 like mp_dynamicpricing
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    Posted by Amen

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    In communist russia, update destroyes you

    Well the exact reason why a lot of people hate it,
    (including me) is the fact that the updates give the game a cartoonish style.
    I don't like the achievements idea in the game, neither do I like the new scoreboard.
    The main reason I don't like the new scoreboard is because of domination.
    It's pretty annoying if you are getting dominated in a war.
    And if it is displayed on the scoreboard. Damn it makes me shamefull.
    Well this is how it is, atleast it is for me.


    How exactly does a new scoreboard make a game cartoony?
    It never was the most realistic game to start with.

    The game isn't realistic, but neither was it cartoonish.
    The new scoreboard gives me a TF2 feel. Because it is from that game anyway.
    And nemesis and domination. That is fucking anoying in a scrim/war/mix.
    Great, everyone can see that I am getting dominated by player.
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    Haters are like women, they are hard to please.

    Some of you probably think that as my duty as being a competitive gamer it is my job to hate the update, sadly I believe it's different to that. I don't hate the update because it's different and a few things are fucked up along with some 'childish looking' features (DeathCam, Achievements etc), I feel like that the update could potentially bring back a few gamers and achieve some newer-ones, just that people are too stubborn and think that the beta is the final product and that CS:S will always be like that.

    By the end of this weekend I anticipate that VALVe will release a CS:S-BETA update that'll fix up and add a few things to the beta. For example, they could fix up this silly and RAGING problem which is where people shoot, then 2 seconds after they've killed you, you hear the actual sound of the gun fire. Fuckin' ridiculous.

    Also I want a riot shield. :<
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    Posted by Matuka

    Haters are like women, they are hard to please.

    Some of you probably think that as my duty as being a competitive gamer it is my job to hate the update, sadly I believe it's different to that. I don't hate the update because it's different and a few things are fucked up along with some 'childish looking' features (DeathCam, Achievements etc), I feel like that the update could potentially bring back a few gamers and achieve some newer-ones, just that people are too stubborn and think that the beta is the final product and that CS:S will always be like that.

    By the end of this weekend I anticipate that VALVe will release a CS:S-BETA update that'll fix up and add a few things to the beta. For example, they could fix up this silly and RAGING problem which is where people shoot, then 2 seconds after they've killed you, you hear the actual sound of the gun fire. Fuckin' ridiculous.

    Also I want a riot shield. :<


    I want them to fix the bug where you walk by someone and get stuck in them.
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    Posted by Amen

    I want them to fix the bug where you walk by someone and get stuck in them.

    Never had that one...

    BACK TO THE TESTING LAB!
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    Posted by Amen

    I want them to fix the bug where you walk by someone and get stuck in them.

    Never had that one...

    BACK TO THE TESTING LAB!


    Basically whiel you're walking by teammates in the beta, instead of being blocked by them, you'll glitch around side of them like you're lagging.
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