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is switching during defuse legal or not ?

I have a rly big question going on: In League is switching during defusing Illegal ? I'm now asking to everyone who i play against in a ESL League if its illegal or not. +- 70% said yes its illegal. +- 30% said no its allowed. So my question is: is switching during defuse allowed yes or no ? If yes why do people do this ? goes it faster or whats the difference ?

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    I can't imagine switching weapons during a defusing illegal.
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    Posted by Foxeh

    I can't imagine switching weapons during a defusing illegal.

    Some say it is, some say its called Illegal Defuse some say Fast Defuse. Either way not allowed, than other say that it is so ya i got a big question.
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    Its legal in every league i've played in. although it really doesn't do anything. Your hud refreshes every x miliseconds (maybe even fasteri don't know), or every time something changes like ammo/health/armor. Switching weapons would update the hud. So it makes the defuse bar look like its going faster when it's not. It's just smoother because it's being refreshed more.
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    Posted by y3sak

    Its legal in every league i've played in. although it really doesn't do anything. Your hud refreshes every x miliseconds, or every time something changes like ammo/health/armor. Switching weapons would update the hud. So it makes the defuse bar look like its going faster when it's not. It's just smoother because it's being refreshed more.

    Ah oke thanks for the info than i'm sure that its allowed :) and why it looked like it was going faster.
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    Fast Defuse is not allowed as it makes it send information more often which could mean alot when it comes to having bad time left on defuse etc.

    lets say it looks like you where done defusing but the bomb exploded (which means you where milliseconds from completely defuse, Fast Defusing would help you up there telling you where done)...

    this is all theoretical and is not Busted neither proved to be true therefore most scrims do not allow it..

    this and Bug Defuse are the defuse methods that most people dislike but Bug Defuse is the only one proved to actually give you an advantage..
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    Posted by Dr.iCe

    Fast Defuse is not allowed as it makes it send information more often which could mean alot when it comes to having bad time left on defuse etc.

    lets say it looks like you where done defusing but the bomb exploded (which means you where milliseconds from completely defuse, Fast Defusing would help you up there telling you where done)...

    this is all theoretical and is not Busted neither proved to be true therefore most scrims do not allow it..

    this and Bug Defuse are the defuse methods that most people dislike but Bug Defuse is the only one proved to actually give you an advantage..


    Ya so its not allowed still big question, the other dude says yes and you say no so idk it, i say its not allowed against who does it but ya idk the real rule about it :s
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    The thing is that:
    there is no real rule on it!

    its something yours and the others team should find out before scriming
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    Posted by Dr.iCe

    The thing is that:
    there is no real rule on it!

    its something yours and the others team should find out before scriming

    ah oke thanks for the info :)
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    We always allow it and in 4 years matching have only met 1 team that told us we couldn't quickswitch.

    - It is allowed in matches
    - It is allowed in EnemyDown, SGL I believe and a few others
    - Some disallow it.

    General Philosophy: Allowed in general but not in some leagues (mostly Europe/foreign leagues, UK/USA leagues tend to allow it)
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    I have never played in a league where it was illegal because IT DOESN'T DO A FUCKING THING.

    Dr.iCe's post makes sense as an explanation, except that isn't how the game works. You don't send more packets to the server just because you are switching weapons.
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    Posted by Crazypip666

    I have never played in a league where it was illegal because IT DOESN'T DO A FUCKING THING.

    Dr.iCe's post makes sense as an explanation, except that isn't how the game works. You don't send more packets to the server just because you are switching weapons.


    It is in fact illegal in some leagues and it does do something.

    Dr.Ice is correct, though it is not to do with the server I believe but rather a slight spped boost when you first defuse which was a short period that Valve used to tweak the change between without/with a defusal kit.

    The result is that quick switching results in this boost being consistent throughout the defusal boosting speed by about a second with a defusal and 1.6 without.
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    In ESL which is the most used by EU players(American's are better sadly), you're not allowed to defuse the bomb through the usage of Bugs, this means wall defusing... However as many have said, it's just the HUD being refreshed... :D Which is quiet surprising to know since I'm often accused of doing so.
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    Posted by gameripper

    Posted by Crazypip666

    I have never played in a league where it was illegal because IT DOESN'T DO A FUCKING THING.

    Dr.iCe's post makes sense as an explanation, except that isn't how the game works. You don't send more packets to the server just because you are switching weapons.


    It is in fact illegal in some leagues and it does do something.

    Dr.Ice is correct, though it is not to do with the server I believe but rather a slight spped boost when you first defuse which was a short period that Valve used to tweak the change between without/with a defusal kit.

    The result is that quick switching results in this boost being consistent throughout the defusal boosting speed by about a second with a defusal and 1.6 without.

    Are you claiming it takes a second off the defuse time?
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    Posted by Crazypip666
    Are you claiming it takes a second off the defuse time?


    I remember looking up the topic at one point, that's the maximum increase (using a complex script which will switch weapons at maximum speed).

    Still there is a significant increase, you can notice it through a little testing in any match and when people have frictionless scroll wheels (me) you can boost the switch speed so much as to guarantee a speed boost.

    I believe Wunderboy said something about it at one point.

    It's also on that epic list of bugs to fix in CSS along with the FPS door and run speed bug, they have the same coding problem apparently.
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    I'm gonna do some tests. BRB.
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    I can't believe you're basing all this off some topic you read.
    If Katshit (I WILL DESTROY YOU IN CS:S) finishes his tests and gives results then we'll know for sure.
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    I contacted a ESL admin and he said: its legal, it only looks that it goes faster.

    so ya if a admin says it, it will be right not ?
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