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Silencer(m4a1) = more accuracy?

I have hearing this from many players i know adding the silencer to the m4a1 gives it more accuracy then again without the silencer it give more accuracy? so i have no idea for what the hell is the silencer...and yeah i know it for tactical fight but other then that i am asking for accuracy?

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    The silencer makes you less heard and improves accuracy but does less damage if I'm not mistaken.
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    It makes it harder to hear you and pinpoint you're location, thats all...
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    Let me make this very clear and simple. The term silencer is states that the sound will be fully silenced, which means, all sounds will be unheard from the gun. However, guns still make sounds even if a suppressor is attached. The word suppressor means that sound will still come from the gun but the sound is more muffled and harder to hear.

    But yes, in CSS the suppressor does give a slight accuracy boost.
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    The damage dealt lessens by between 4 and 11 dmg with the supressor (happy mctavish? :D) attached
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    You know, if you believe that silencing the M4A1 (or any gun for that matter) makes it more accurate, it will increase your accuracy. Subconsciousness is a powerful thing. I tried using the P228 once, almost no frags. I installed an extremely good skin (should be a default one IMO) and bam! It replaced the M4 and AK.

    But statistically I don't think it improves anything.
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    Posted by McTavish

    Let me make this very clear and simple. The term silencer is states that the sound will be fully silenced, which means, all sounds will be unheard from the gun. However, guns still make sounds even if a suppressor is attached. The word suppressor means that sound will still come from the gun but the sound is more muffled and harder to hear.

    But yes, in CSS the suppressor does give a slight accuracy boost.


    I would say it's relative. A person can hear an M4A1 Carbine from 20 meters of distance when the gun's firing. If you use a suppressor he won't hear shit. So calling it suppressor or silencer it's relative to the distance the target is from the source of the sound. :D
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    Actually try shooting at a wall with non supressor and suppressed. I believe you will find a regularly different spray patter. I find over long distance supressed is more accurate (ct to t spawn dust2 for example)
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    No what I'm saying is that it uses a different set of the four general spray patterns used by the M4 (and AK as it happens) which if memory server is tighter packed over distance when suppressed but at close range is not as advantageous.
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    ...Shut the hell up all of you.

    Attach the silencer and your accuracy will improve very...very slightly as the bullets come out more slowly due to the silencer thus slightly less recoil. Un-silenced bullets come out faster with more recoil. Simple. stop arguing about stupid things.

    Btw if you wana shot from ct spawn to t spawn or vise versa buy a sniper rifle.
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    Battlemech we don't want to know about the physics about a bullet in real life but the effects of the silencer in this game. Also if you find it annoying that we're discussing this fuck off into the my little pony discussion forums.

    Also I am aware of a sniper rifles advantages and surprisingly when I'm matching with my team my man dropping lower under AWP cover doesn't want to be lugging an AWP that is 4 rounds money when a few quick shots can make a round changing wound. Go back to playing your Public servers and actually help people rather than attackign the thread according to your own opinions
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    Well, yea actually there is a difference, but i didnt tought about it too much... i prefer un-silenced m4 :P
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    It makes it a little more accurate but it doesn't do as much damage.
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    Posted by X-tr3m3r

    Posted by McTavish

    Let me make this very clear and simple. The term silencer is states that the sound will be fully silenced, which means, all sounds will be unheard from the gun. However, guns still make sounds even if a suppressor is attached. The word suppressor means that sound will still come from the gun but the sound is more muffled and harder to hear.

    But yes, in CSS the suppressor does give a slight accuracy boost.


    I would say it's relative. A person can hear an M4A1 Carbine from 20 meters of distance when the gun's firing. If you use a suppressor he won't hear shit. So calling it suppressor or silencer it's relative to the distance the target is from the source of the sound. :D

    No it is not. Thats like calling a block of cheese a block of cheese when you see it a foot away from you on the counter but when your a mile away, it's still a block of cheese.
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    I like the noise of a silencer... That's all.
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    Posted by gameripper

    Battlemech we don't want to know about the physics about a bullet in real life but the effects of the silencer in this game. Also if you find it annoying that we're discussing this fuck off into the my little pony discussion forums.

    Also I am aware of a sniper rifles advantages and surprisingly when I'm matching with my team my man dropping lower under AWP cover doesn't want to be lugging an AWP that is 4 rounds money when a few quick shots can make a round changing wound. Go back to playing your Public servers and actually help people rather than attackign the thread according to your own opinions


    Wow, you must be one of those 4 year olds that just point there mouse and spray-and-pray. If you had noticed at all when your playing, THAT IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. The m4 shots slower with a silencer and less recoil. Without the silencer it shoots faster but with more recoil. Maybe you should learn how to play the game and pay attention to the different aspects of the weapons. Maybe you wont be analy raped by some little 8 year old girl who snuck on her borthers computer to play his "shooty game" (my sis says that but shes 7 so..).

    Honestly.

    Also, css is made to be as realistic as possible, so even if I was talking about real life guns it would apply to source foo.



    Also wth you talking about your man (or as others now him "bubba the rapist") going out for close quarters with an awp... I said TO SHOOT FROM CT TO T GET A SNIPER. Learn to read.

    That is all.
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    Posted by battlemech7

    Also, css is made to be as realistic as possible, so even if I was talking about real life guns it would apply to source foo.


    Yea my brother's friend was in Afghanistan. He says it takes at least THREE grenades to kill a man.
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    Posted by battlemech7

    Also, css is made to be as realistic as possible, so even if I was talking about real life guns it would apply to source foo.


    Yea my brother's friend was in Afghanistan. He says it takes at least THREE grenades to kill a man.


    I also heard that a USP to the head doesn't kill you irl.
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    Posted by BrainZ

    The silencer makes you less heard and improves accuracy but does less damage if I'm not mistaken.


    Bing Correct although i seem to shoot better without but that doesn't stop me :D
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    Posted by BrainZ

    The silencer makes you less heard and improves accuracy but does less damage if I'm not mistaken.


    and your muzzle flashes can't be seen through smoke.
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    Posted by McTavish

    Posted by X-tr3m3r

    Posted by McTavish

    Let me make this very clear and simple. The term silencer is states that the sound will be fully silenced, which means, all sounds will be unheard from the gun. However, guns still make sounds even if a suppressor is attached. The word suppressor means that sound will still come from the gun but the sound is more muffled and harder to hear.

    But yes, in CSS the suppressor does give a slight accuracy boost.


    I would say it's relative. A person can hear an M4A1 Carbine from 20 meters of distance when the gun's firing. If you use a suppressor he won't hear shit. So calling it suppressor or silencer it's relative to the distance the target is from the source of the sound. :D

    No it is not. Thats like calling a block of cheese a block of cheese when you see it a foot away from you on the counter but when your a mile away, it's still a block of cheese.


    The block of cheese is a block of cheese when you can see identify it as a block of cheese. If it is a mile away, you can't. So it's not cheese it's... a thing.

    I simply wanted to point out that things are being called and described based on our understanding of those things. Just like the example of: half-full or half-empty glass of water? It's a kinda simple question done at 8 year old kids. It is meant to describe you as a pessimist if you say half-empty while optimist if you say half-full. I personally never gave a straight answer because I always believed that the answer would be relative to how thirsty I would be at that specific time I would give the answer. So half-full=I'm ok, half-empty=I'm thirsty.

    Same in CSS. A guy who gets owned in D2 at Long, from a guy with a Silenced M4, he will say "The noob had a silencer on so I didn't hear him" while the killer with the M4 would say "Hey, my uber tactical Suppressed M4A1 really kicks ass".

    Indeed, the term suppressor is the right term to use but the word silencer describes better what the victim can see or hear (nothing :P).

    And yes I know, the distance doesn't change objects... only our perception of them.
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    Posted by Fedda

    You know, if you believe that silencing the M4A1 (or any gun for that matter) makes it more accurate, it will increase your accuracy. Subconsciousness is a powerful thing. I tried using the P228 once, almost no frags. I installed an extremely good skin (should be a default one IMO) and bam! It replaced the M4 and AK.

    But statistically I don't think it improves anything.


    That is so damn true rofl.
    Certain skins have made me so much better in game.
    Weird how the mind can do something like that isn't it?
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    I actually began using the suppressor (or is that silencer ? :P ) as I also think it was more accurate although less powerful, but I actually liked the sound it makes, but then after some time I started using it without and is my feeling (then again, its a case of "feeling") that it is indeed more powerful but less accurate.
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    Posted by X-tr3m3r

    Words

    Damn I've been beaten.

    Also, Dongs.
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    Posted by McTavish

    Posted by X-tr3m3r

    Words

    Damn I've been beaten.

    Also, Dongs.


    Sorry I don't get it. What's "dongs"? Also I said words on purpose in order to indicate that you are correct.
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    It'll increase your accuracy and lower the damage. I think it has something to do with lowering recoil and the length of time the bullet stays in the barrel. Not 100% sure, I could be talking shit =]
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    Battlemech we don't want to know about the physics about a bullet in real life but the effects of the silencer in this game. Also if you find it annoying that we're discussing this fuck off into the my little pony discussion forums.

    Also I am aware of a sniper rifles advantages and surprisingly when I'm matching with my team my man dropping lower under AWP cover doesn't want to be lugging an AWP that is 4 rounds money when a few quick shots can make a round changing wound. Go back to playing your Public servers and actually help people rather than attackign the thread according to your own opinions


    Wow, you must be one of those 4 year olds that just point there mouse and spray-and-pray. If you had noticed at all when your playing, THAT IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. The m4 shots slower with a silencer and less recoil. Without the silencer it shoots faster but with more recoil. Maybe you should learn how to play the game and pay attention to the different aspects of the weapons. Maybe you wont be analy raped by some little 8 year old girl who snuck on her borthers computer to play his "shooty game" (my sis says that but shes 7 so..).

    Honestly.

    Also, css is made to be as realistic as possible, so even if I was talking about real life guns it would apply to source foo.



    Also wth you talking about your man (or as others now him "bubba the rapist") going out for close quarters with an awp... I said TO SHOOT FROM CT TO T GET A SNIPER. Learn to read.

    That is all.
    you are the best answer thanks you..oh don't pay attention to gameripper he is always getting in my posts>.>
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    Posted by McTavish

    But yes, in CSS the suppressor does give a slight accuracy boost.

    And that information is based on what? not a goddamn thing. let's see you prove that yes?
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    Wow, wanna start a goddamn fight about man?
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    For some reason I like the feeling of firing with a silencer, makes me feel like I'm actually hitting the target.
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    Posted by Dagoon

    Posted by battlemech7

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    Battlemech we don't want to know about the physics about a bullet in real life but the effects of the silencer in this game. Also if you find it annoying that we're discussing this fuck off into the my little pony discussion forums.

    Also I am aware of a sniper rifles advantages and surprisingly when I'm matching with my team my man dropping lower under AWP cover doesn't want to be lugging an AWP that is 4 rounds money when a few quick shots can make a round changing wound. Go back to playing your Public servers and actually help people rather than attackign the thread according to your own opinions


    Wow, you must be one of those 4 year olds that just point there mouse and spray-and-pray. If you had noticed at all when your playing, THAT IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. The m4 shots slower with a silencer and less recoil. Without the silencer it shoots faster but with more recoil. Maybe you should learn how to play the game and pay attention to the different aspects of the weapons. Maybe you wont be analy raped by some little 8 year old girl who snuck on her borthers computer to play his "shooty game" (my sis says that but shes 7 so..).

    Honestly.

    Also, css is made to be as realistic as possible, so even if I was talking about real life guns it would apply to source foo.



    Also wth you talking about your man (or as others now him "bubba the rapist") going out for close quarters with an awp... I said TO SHOOT FROM CT TO T GET A SNIPER. Learn to read.

    That is all.
    you are the best answer thanks you..oh don't pay attention to gameripper he is always getting in my posts>.>


    Thank you, now if you don't mind closing this thread, as it seems the 4 year olds above are gona shit themselves in anger.
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