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Weapon Setups

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Hey everybody, I'm new in the CL community; I only downloaded it on Sunday, but I'm already almost to Apprehension. I like CL. :) Anyway, I was curious as to what weapon setups people like. Since you can only carry one weapon from each category (two from rifles, of course, one assault and one sniper) you have to carefully choose your weapon loadout so that you can be effective no matter your situation. My preferred loadout is this: PISTOL: Glock SHOTGUN: Pumper SMG: P90 AR: SG552 SR: AWP MG: M249 I often modify this for variety (for example, I sometimes use AK in place of SG552). However, I try not to use two weapons that share ammo, like a USP and a Mac10. This way I always have plenty of bullets in case I go a long stretch between chargers.

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    Originally posted by Haunter Actually, if you were to change the values of the HL weapons in the skill.cfg, it would not affect them in MP. But I'm not putting the damage for the weapons into the skill.cfg. Because I have other plans.:D Come to think of it. I haven't lock any threads ever since I became moderator. Maybe I should start!:D Just kidding folks!
    And I haven't been calling Haunter an assy moderator since I came here. Maybe I should start? Just kidding Haunter... Why not? I know and I think that HL ignoring thoose values for MP is OK, But if they were to work in MP at least put a demand that they must have the same .cfg's
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    As a matter of fact, yes. :)
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    What ideas could the AUG with 42 rounds thing give you? do we have to wait till june to find out?
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    Actually, if you were to change the values of the HL weapons in the skill.cfg, it would not affect them in MP. But I'm not putting the damage for the weapons into the skill.cfg. Because I have other plans.:D Come to think of it. I haven't lock any threads ever since I became moderator. Maybe I should start!:D Just kidding folks!
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    if CL is going to have multiplay mode, then the weapon capacity and damage should not be user's customized... imagine a mp game where the xm1014 have 250 rounds in mag... and glock with awp class damage... or para with awp damage and zoom features and 250 rounds capacity..... being able to adjust the health and damage done by the monsters is good enough.... cos CL guns really do a lot of damage, see hard mode is the hardest already but it is a piece of cake with CL's damage weapons.... also, im concerned about multi play of CL... it should not be competitive mod like CS... players tend to hack and cheat.... CL should be a cooperative mod.... cos if they want competitive mod there is CS... but i still think sticking to single play is best... cos monsters dont cheat, scold and hack.... if CL is not going to be multiplay mod, then the gun config is okay....
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    Originally posted by Sweeper Isn't it possible to make an external .cfg with weapon values? Like guns.cfg where damage and clip size, second functions ETC so we have to edit it ourselves. Just more power to the user;)
    I think that's a great idea! :D
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    Originally posted by Haunter Yep. Because there are hundreds of user made models for CS. Imagine, I would have to scour every CS skins webpage to find all models, good or bad, and code them into CL. I have to constantly do this everyday to make sure nothing is missing. Phew! Talk about hard work. Of course, I'm not doing that. I have other plans.
    Isn't it possible to make an external .cfg with weapon values? Like guns.cfg where damage and clip size, second functions ETC so we have to edit it ourselves. Just more power to the user;)
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    Yep. Because there are hundreds of user made models for CS. Imagine, I would have to scour every CS skins webpage to find all models, good or bad, and code them into CL. I have to constantly do this everyday to make sure nothing is missing. Phew! Talk about hard work. Of course, I'm not doing that. I have other plans.
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    Originally posted by Haunter Did I? Come to think of it, it did slipped my mind. Your 'Aug with 42 rounds' seems to give me an idea. I'll have to put this to good use. Meanwhile, I need to solder a few items. Things are about to heat up.
    it gave me an idea too. let players choose thier own clip size in SP to fit thier custom models. Somehow i dont think it will work very well though.
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    Originally posted by Haunter Did I? Come to think of it, it did slipped my mind. Your 'Aug with 42 rounds' seems to give me an idea. I'll have to put this to good use. Meanwhile, I need to solder a few items. Things are about to heat up.
    Solder? Electronics? You should get yourself an AMD Athlon XP and solder the L1's.
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    Did I? Come to think of it, it did slipped my mind. Your 'Aug with 42 rounds' seems to give me an idea. I'll have to put this to good use. Meanwhile, I need to solder a few items. Things are about to heat up.
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    Haunter, will you extend the AUG mag to 42 rounds? I brought this up before but you rejected it.
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    While your at it make usable bipods for sniper rifles and the M249 like the MGs in DoD. That would rock balancing the M249 on something to get better accuracy and mow down a whole buncha grunts.:m249: Would be cooler if we could get prone too *hint *hint;) Peace!:cool:
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    I love hacking weapons if i have the knowledge. Heck, I'll create my own M16 with scope, silencer and grenade launcher as my primary and a Deagle with a silencer and a scope as my secondary. Then I'll code my very own custom version and play from dusk to dawn. Ah, life. It isn't fair sometimes. SO GET USED TO IT! :)
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    I've just finished Apprehension for about the 10th time with this mod, and my loadout was: Bare fists (knife replacement) Titanium Desert Eagle (Deagle reskin) Silenced Glock 18 Auto-pistol (TMP replacement) Sawed-off Remington 870 shotgun (M3 replacement) A scruffy M16 (M4A1 replacement) My very own IMI Galil custom (SG552 replacement) My very own AUG with drum mag (M249 replacement) AMP DSR-1 (AWM/P replacement) CL is fun by default, but custom models make it even better, and your own specially hacked models make it utterly sublime! :D
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    ICE is just a variable name. You can use other names like buck, weapslot, etc.
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    ICE? What does it to C++ code? Is it like a term described somewhere else in your Source? I have looked over some of it and Int is familiar thing, need to get the C++ book.
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    How can I be the best if I let my secrets out? :) Ok, ok. Look here:
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    Originally posted by Haunter Tell me about it. When fixing the weapon buckets, it was a hell of a job. But since I found out the secret, no problems.
    Please spill the secret to your fellow CL players.
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    Tell me about it. When fixing the weapon buckets, it was a hell of a job. But since I found out the secret, no problems.
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    Originally posted by Haunter I said IF I get the money sprite working. Because that damn thing uses part of the HL engine and we all know the HL engine has limitations. If it's possible, I will try to make it a 6 digit figure.
    Some CS style? Well that means sprites that can go wrong, believe me, it is not fun.
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    I said IF I get the money sprite working. Because that damn thing uses part of the HL engine and we all know the HL engine has limitations. If it's possible, I will try to make it a 6 digit figure.
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    Originally posted by Haunter Don't worry. All CVARs I have added are still in. When I figure out the money sprite, I think there is going to be limitations. As for more handguns, you have so much fire power to make the strongest army beg for mercy and you still want an extra handgun? Consider it done. In June.
    NOOOOOOOOOOO! All thoose beatiful money! I must defend them! I will not let you take them!
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    UnDeR_FiRe has reached his 100th post! Congrats! Welcome to the community!
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    Originally posted by Haunter Don't worry. All CVARs I have added are still in. When I figure out the money sprite, I think there is going to be limitations. As for more handguns, you have so much fire power to make the strongest army beg for mercy and you still want an extra handgun? Consider it done. In June.
    Right on!
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    Originally posted by ttam 2 pistols would b good and u could have it so fire shoots pistol 1 and alt fire shoots pistol 2 but that would cause things like the glock's alt fire not to work but yeah that would b an awesome thing to have
    I didn't mean (nor do I think Haunter means) that you could carry two different pistols akimbo. How would that work as most models all have two hands holding the gun? It look weird if we used available models and it came out like you have 4 arms... I just meant you could carry two different pistols the same way you carry two different rifles now. Just clearing that up...:m249: Peace!:cool:
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    Don't worry. All CVARs I have added are still in. When I figure out the money sprite, I think there is going to be limitations. As for more handguns, you have so much fire power to make the strongest army beg for mercy and you still want an extra handgun? Consider it done. In June.
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    Originally posted by UnDeR_FiRe sweet! now i can have an automatic sniper rifle, and apache killing power!
    Yeahaa more guns, more power, worse AA artillery for Apaches. Haunter: Will the old command for total carry amount remain? I like having it at 300000!
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    2 pistols would b good and u could have it so fire shoots pistol 1 and alt fire shoots pistol 2 but that would cause things like the glock's alt fire not to work but yeah that would b an awesome thing to have
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    Good enough for me, but i think 2 pistols shpuld have ben added first.
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    The reason is this: You have so much darn money that I decided to make full use of it.
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    Originally posted by Haunter *Why is UnDeR_FiRe so freaking smart? *Next hint.
    sweet! now i can have an automatic sniper rifle, and apache killing power!
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    Hmmm holding two sniper rifles... but if you already carry the AWP why would you bother with anything else? The only thing I ever use the sniper rifles for are the Xen Masters, Those energy crystals in the Nihalanth's Lair, and the Apache/ Tanks. Except maybe in Xen the extra weapon could help, but it would just draw ammo from your AK-47/ Aug/ M4/ Sig ammo. I don't see any grand advantage to lugging around an extra rifle. I think it would be much more desirable to increase the power on Psg-1 and G3/Sg-1 to make them decent Apache killers. They're so low powered as it is anyway... What would be cool and kinda make sense with the advent of Dualies, would be to carry 2 different pistols (since technically you have two holsters) or 1 set of Dual Berretas. That would be cool carrying a Deagle and Silenced USP.:m249: O but I remembered "Ace is always wrong and no one listens to him." Well taking from that I also suggest you give the player a max health of 2, no armor, can carry a knife and 1 grenade, and multiply the health of all enemies by x1,000! That would r0x0r0z H4rDC0r3! Peace!:cool:
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    *Why is UnDeR_FiRe so freaking smart? *Next hint.
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    Maybe you can hold 2 sniper rifles?
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    What of my CT favorite the SG-550? Will he be left out in the cold?:( :m249: Peace!:cool:
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    Originally posted by Haunter Seems like you guys are having fun. I'm having more! Because coming next Beta, the *G3SG1 will be the next good friend of the AWP. *- hint;)
    More money per kill? More power? Higher ROF? Or the old 1.0 ability to assault with it? Last one is my favourite.
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    Seems like you guys are having fun. I'm having more! Because coming next Beta, the *G3SG1 will be the next good friend of the AWP. *- hint;)
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    deagle for power and 57 for clip capacity. i also use the usp sometimes too. shotty: both of them work for me. never use them till i get to xen though. SMG: p90. fast rate of fire but inaccurate if you spray.also Wastes ammo like there's no tomarrow. Second choice, UMP. powerful and conserves ammo nicely. rifles: usually m4. very accurate and doesnt have insane recoil. either of the scoped rifles work for me. I would use the AUG if it had a standard clip. sniper: scout until i find apaches. Then its the AWM for the rest of the game. I use other weapons just to try something different, but those are my weapons of choice.
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    Eh...just so I don't feel left out: Pistol: 5-7 is the best, I think. Highly accurate and does good damage. I use the USP though, due to it using different ammo than my favorite SMG. Shotgun: Either. I switch back and forth. There's nothing more entertaining than jumping around a corner and taking out and alien while in mid-air with one shot. Unless, you run at it pumping shot after shot from the auto shotty. :m249: SMG: P90 hands down. High rate of fire, pretty accurate if you know where it goes and large clip make for a nice package. The zoom (which I didn't find out about until late in the game) is just an added bonus. Rifles: AK-47 and Sig 552 are my choices. Mainly because they use different ammo so I know I have another assault rifle to choose from should I run out of ammo for one. Sniper Rifle: Arctic Warfar Magnum mainly because it's great against the Apaches. (A pistol can take out a tank, btw :P) MG: Duh! Para. I've changed weapons from time to time, but these are my standards. I've made it to the Nihilanth after killing everything and still had ammo for most of my guns, including the AWM. :)
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    Das Messer über alles! ...heh, well maybe not. DE, might be a 5-7 now MP5 pump shotty AK 47, gotta love the russian weapons Aug awp, after having lots of fun with my scout and the only machine gun in the game
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    Damn I must be on drugs lately... I went to check and sure enough I bought an Ak-47 & Aug/ M4 & Sig 552 combo. Coulda sworn it didn't work before though...:confused: Well Dualies still Sux0r0z!*O.o I have no point... Peace!:cool:
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    You can hold rifles from opposite teams. make sure you have enough money.
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    Haunter: Cl.dll dated December 2002/ Readme in CL directory dated November 2002 Wampyrus: I dunno Im too lazy to go actually check on the P228. I remember it being 5 shots maybe Im thinking the glock... Dualies: Why use twin 9mms in CQB when you have the Super 90/ XM1014? Rifles: I know you can hold 1 rifle and 1 scoped rifle. I said that I can't hold 1 rifle of either class from opposite teams at the same time. I.E. Ak-47 & Aug/ M4a1 & Sig 552 combos aren't allowed. Sweeper: The P90 is accurate enough in zoomed mode and can also be switched normal sights to "spray and pray" at large groups of grunts/ vortagaunts, which I always find funny.:m249: Although mp5 sd still good for stealth missions like I said... Peace!:cool:
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    Originally posted by Wampyrus in hard mode, the p228 can take out a headcrab with 1 hit... how on earth you aim ? and i think you got older betas, cos CL 4.3 YOU CAN hold 1 assault rifle (AK and M4) AND 1 scoped assault rifle... (sg552 and AUG) mp5 over perform p90, mp5 in CL is still better in accuracy... berettas are inaccurate, that's why i say CQB.... Close Quarter Battle
    Mp5 I have never managed to stick with. I prefer the P90, not so much reloading.
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    in hard mode, the p228 can take out a headcrab with 1 hit... how on earth you aim ? and i think you got older betas, cos CL 4.3 YOU CAN hold 1 assault rifle (AK and M4) AND 1 scoped assault rifle... (sg552 and AUG) mp5 over perform p90, mp5 in CL is still better in accuracy... berettas are inaccurate, that's why i say CQB.... Close Quarter Battle
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    Look at the date of the cl.dll and the date the readme.txt was updated. If both dates are not too far from each other, then it should be OK. Otherwise, you are using the old cl.dll.
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    Well fine then... Note to Self: ACE is always wrong. Keep comments to self... Also: 1.) I have version/ beta 4.3 and every time I try to buy an AK-47 when Im holding an aug it says "You already have a rifle!" If I buy an aug, throw it away, buy an AK-47, and then try to pick up the aug I can't. Vice versa for the Siggy/ M4a1. 2.) I stand by my opinion of the Sig P228 and its low power. 3.) Deagle pwns 5.7 4.) P90 won't waste .50 ammo. 5.) Dualies still inaccurate but look cool. So Booyah!:m249: Didn't I just say Im keeping comments to myself...:confused: Peace!:cool:
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    1.) Sig P228= useless it takes 5 shots to kill a headcrab! .357 in CL must be about 1mm in real life... -5 shots ? can you aim ? 2.) Dualies= Look cool but way to inaccurate. I prefer to take down an enemy somewhere in the first 3 shots not the first 30... -if you want a large capacity pistol for CQB, that is the option and pls AIM before shooting, dont shoot the air 3.) Mac 10/ TMP= Both my models are silenced fr these but I don't use em since they waste tons of ammo. The clip empties in around 3 seconds and then how will you take on the other 3 human grunts? -i dont use them either, but for fun you can use them (they are known as 'water gun' in Singapore) 4.) 5.7= Ok this one I like. The 5.7 is awesome in CL and is the only handgun that is represented well beside the USP and Deagle. 1 Headshot kills a Vort and between 10-12 rounds to the belly or 7-8 headshot kills an Alien grunt so its pretty useful throughtout. Problem is it takes up P90 ammo. -FiveseveN has bigger power than deagle, and 20 round capacity. and better gun ? 5.) UMP= This is a good gun. I use it fairly often in CS but in CL its slow ROF and recoil throw it off too much against multiple opponents. Id take an mp5 sd over this any day. -it saves ammo, but nothing good esle, get mp5 6.) P90= R0x0r0z especially with the extra zoom function. Thanks Haunter! -it have poor accuracy at burst, and wastes fiveseven bullet... get mp5 7.) Scout/ G3/-Sg-1/ SG-550= All nearly useless since there are few long range sniper engagements in HL, and you basicaly need the awp to get past anything armored (tanks, apaches, Nihlanth). Also the P-90, Sig 552, and Aug basically fill the sniper role. -scout is useless, the G3 and 550 are great, use it unzoom at close range, it saves you more bullets if you are using M4 or AK 8.) Para= Aside from incredibly large targets like the Gonarch and Nihalanth I don't see much use for the Para either. Again its inacuracies and high recoil shorten its life as an effective "throughout the game" weapon so I mostly save it for bosses or places where theres alot of grunts in some kinda choke point. -get this off, wastes bullet and poor accuracy, it is the last gun i will use 9.) Ak-47= ditto for Para -it packs a lot of damage, and more inaccurate than m249 use it for unzoom sniping... get a m4a1 10.) Wait a sec how come some of you are using an AK-47/Aug or Colt/Sg-552 combination? The game won't allo you to take rifles from opposite teams?! Unless I missed Beta 5 somehow... -this is CL, not CS. WAKE UP ! Peace!
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    cl_dropmoney? -_-*
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