Am i the only one tired of valves crap?

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Like puttings tradable items in fucking everything...

So am i really the only one tired with valves..well anything in the past 5ish years? I mean why the hell do we need tradable items in every thing? Oh yea MONEY! Portal 2, and CSGo did not need them at all.. Also you're to stupid for our map. I mean is not like players could you know just not play it. Oh no we need to not sell games since kiddies might go crazy, even tho we already have a steam parent blocker system... Also lets add trading cards to level up and make it to where you have buy the rest of the cards to make the badge to level your account to have more friends...... Also Greenlight....Just no.... Lets all look forward for half life 3 with Stickers, hats, costumes, weapons and weapons skins as buyable items.(HEV suit only for people who pre order it.) Origin has sales on par with steam and free game time for their AAA games. Not a free weekend for COD... Let the hate rain onto me since i said something bad about valve..
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    The only crap they do is remove Hatred off of Greenlight, which is a terrible system to begin with.
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    > **Posted by Thelostrune** > > The only crap they do is remove Hatred off of Greenlight, which is a terrible system to begin with. Still, they should have prevented some of the worst games being featured on Steam, like Air Control. I still cannot believe that it cost like $6 bucks. Even though it has been removed, I don't know if the game's unfortunate buyers received refunds.
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    > **Posted by TheForgery** > > > **Posted by Thelostrune** > > > > The only crap they do is remove Hatred off of Greenlight, which is a terrible system to begin with. > > Still, they should have prevented some of the worst games being featured on Steam, like Air Control. I still cannot believe that it cost like $6 bucks. Even though it has been removed, I don't know if the game's unfortunate buyers received refunds. If a game gets removed from the store most of the time you don't. At least from the few games that i own that have been removed from the store i never got a chance to get my money back. The game will stay in your steam library tho.
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    Oh no, the valveknights are on the way, get ready! But honestly, I think valve got too much praise. Yes half life was good. Another thing I personally found good was VAC. But at the end they bought some of the most played games, forced people to be able to play them ONLY through steam and then turned them into casual hat selling garbage. No, they didn't "save" shit with hats and stop saying they "saved" PC gaming.
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    > **Posted by zamphire** > > > **Posted by TheForgery** > > > > > **Posted by Thelostrune** > > > > > > The only crap they do is remove Hatred off of Greenlight, which is a terrible system to begin with. > > > > Still, they should have prevented some of the worst games being featured on Steam, like Air Control. I still cannot believe that it cost like $6 bucks. Even though it has been removed, I don't know if the game's unfortunate buyers received refunds. > > If a game gets removed from the store most of the time you don't. At least from the few games that i own that have been removed from the store i never got a chance to get my money back. The game will stay in your steam library tho. Darn...just as I feared. By the way, can you still play removed games if they are still in your library? From the looks of it, apparently, the "studio" behind that obnoxious game can keep their profits regardless which would be wrong.
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    Steam Sales ![](http://i.gyazo.com/b3ff4c99db2dd16a74f559a417e05731.png "") Some Of origin Sales. ![](http://i.gyazo.com/6947882021d871ada46f701c3ef68d9a.png "")
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    Most things in Valve is fine except bad game servers (under performing with 64 tick rate), way overpriced skins (and other items) at some points. I don't believe tradable stuff is the problem as it's your decision to where you spend your money. There also has been a update recently to prevent fraud and scams with a trade limit of one week to recently aquired items. I believe it's a good thing rather and it'll keep the scammers crying for a while, I'm all for it. However there is many reasons to complain to Valve, so they can eventually fix their stuff and maybe become better as a company and all. I don't believe Valve is the problem. I believe they're having money issues or something that's why things remain broken sort of say until they can improve and fix it. It probably depends on how many people buys the games and such. That money goes to making the Valve community better.
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    > **Posted by TheForgery** > > > **Posted by zamphire** > > > > > **Posted by TheForgery** > > > > > > > **Posted by Thelostrune** > > > > > > > > The only crap they do is remove Hatred off of Greenlight, which is a terrible system to begin with. > > > > > > Still, they should have prevented some of the worst games being featured on Steam, like Air Control. I still cannot believe that it cost like $6 bucks. Even though it has been removed, I don't know if the game's unfortunate buyers received refunds. > > > > If a game gets removed from the store most of the time you don't. At least from the few games that i own that have been removed from the store i never got a chance to get my money back. The game will stay in your steam library tho. > > Darn...just as I feared. By the way, can you still play removed games if they are still in your library? > > From the looks of it, apparently, the "studio" behind that obnoxious game can keep their profits regardless which would be wrong. Yea you can still play it as long as it does not need a master server or what ever by the developers.
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    > **Posted by SteelKat** > > I believe they're having money issues or something that's why things remain broken sort of say until they can improve and fix it. It probably depends on how many people buys the games and such. That money goes to making the Valve community better. Valves money issue is is they have too much. :l
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    Never really bothered with cards, emoticons, badges and all those useless cosmetics on Steam. I just learned to ignore them easily since they're completely optional features. Some (or most, I dare to say) fall under that social pressure of "What? my friend's level is higher than mine? I must level up", but that's only if they're immature enough. Greenlight has it's pros and cons like all things in life, but I think it did more good than bad. Many old games from the past were ressurected thanks to it. Comparing Steam to Origin however is equivalent to stabbing yourself in the eye. Origin = EA, and there's no need to elaborate more on the matter. My only issue with Valve in recent years is that they became so occupied with Steam they forgot they're game developers. I'm just sitting here for 7 years waiting for closure on Half-Life 2.
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    > **Posted by Ankh** > > Never really bothered with cards, emoticons, badges and all those useless cosmetics on Steam. > I just learned to ignore them easily since they're completely optional features. > > Some (or most, I dare to say) fall under that social pressure of "What? my friend's level is higher than mine? I must level up", but that's only if they're immature enough. > > Greenlight has it's pros and cons like all things in life, but I think it did more good than bad. Many old games from the past were ressurected thanks to it. > > Comparing Steam to Origin however is equivalent to stabbing yourself in the eye. Origin = EA, and there's no need to elaborate more on the matter. > > My only issue with Valve in recent years is that they became so occupied with Steam they forgot they're game developers. I'm just sitting here for 7 years waiting for closure on Half-Life 2. I think they are not going to make HL3 until someone threatens steam. So every will be looking at hl3 and not the other guys. That or they jsut can't think of anything new to add. I mean they know they can add "Combine Supply Creates" that people can buy keys from the resistance and gordon will get neat-o skins made by modders... They also know people will just say its cool since hl3 and gaben. If netflix makes a gaming service where you can download the games and mod them and etc steam is 100% fucked. Pretty much i think mainly they are keeping it as a attention getter but they are gonna shoot themself in the foot when they pull a duke nukem.
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    > **Posted by zamphire** > > > **Posted by Ankh** > > > > Never really bothered with cards, emoticons, badges and all those useless cosmetics on Steam. > > I just learned to ignore them easily since they're completely optional features. > > > > Some (or most, I dare to say) fall under that social pressure of "What? my friend's level is higher than mine? I must level up", but that's only if they're immature enough. > > > > Greenlight has it's pros and cons like all things in life, but I think it did more good than bad. Many old games from the past were ressurected thanks to it. > > > > Comparing Steam to Origin however is equivalent to stabbing yourself in the eye. Origin = EA, and there's no need to elaborate more on the matter. > > > > My only issue with Valve in recent years is that they became so occupied with Steam they forgot they're game developers. I'm just sitting here for 7 years waiting for closure on Half-Life 2. > > I think they are not going to make HL3 until someone threatens steam. So every will be looking at hl3 and not the other guys. That or they jsut can't think of anything new to add. I mean they know they can add "Combine Supply Creates" that people can buy keys from the resistance and gordon will get neat-o skins made by modders... They also know people will just say its cool since hl3 and gaben. If netflix makes a gaming service where you can download the games and mod them and etc steam is 100% fucked. Pretty much i think mainly they are keeping it as a attention getter but they are gonna shoot themself in the foot when they pull a duke nukem. Well, some game developer became angry when a game of his was accidentally listed as early access or something. He was so pissed off, he literally threatened to kill Gabe Newell and that obviously did not end well. As for the secrecy of Episode 3/HL3, I blame that damn German hacker who leaked the Hl2 beta. Since that incident, Valve has usually distanced themselves from fans.
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    HL is single player game -> you have to pay for it. Also for games like tf2 and dota 2, I think it is much more enjoyable to be pay2bling than pay2win. As far as CS:GO goes, I feel the only reason it has I price, is because of cheating problems related to it. Greenlight is a good thing, especially with the fee, because if not for the fee, you could find at least 100 half-ass done games by me alone. Finally with the trading cards - it is people's choice if they want to buy it. Personally I sell all the cards I get, which contributes to my next purchase.
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    > **Posted by taboo112** > > Greenlight is a good thing, especially with the fee, because if not for the fee, you could find at least 100 half-ass done games by me alone. /dead
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    Also the reason i don't like trading cards is that you need to get them to get more friends list slots.
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    > **Posted by zamphire** > > Also the reason i don't like trading cards is that you need to get them to get more friends list slots. I hardly see how you can fill up the list. Even if the limit at lvl 1 would be 100 it's more than enough.
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    without valve you wouldn't be on this site, so ... don't comment any more, please.
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    > **Posted by andrept4** > > without valve you wouldn't be on this site Look around this site, not all games here are by valve.
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    Honestly I've never even bothered with all of these cs go stickers and skins. There's only two things that valve did that Pissed me off, one was turning css into sv_pure and disabled Modding and took them 6 months to fix. The other was their constant disconnecting from steam community, I understand if they do maintenance but it's a daily thing. And if you don't like paying for cs go skins then just don't buy them, nobody's forcing you to buy hats and skins and it's the whole reason tf2 is f2p.but I do agree with some of the things you stated with the cards, emoticons, level system etc. but it actually helps me, since every body loves this stuff it helps me buy games without actually using money. GreenLight has Pissed me off since games like depression quest got on the store which isn't even a game but it's helped games like no more room in hell get in and get updated a lot more easier and more frequently. Valve is my favorite company mainly because they've done a lot with their community, they've made mistakes but don't we all? I've never messed with origin enough to see how it is but I've heard from many people it isn't that great, that's just speculation and not my opinion. Overall Valve has given a lot in my experience and opinion and I'll be honest I can't say many things bad about them, I understand your point though. I choose to just not bother with all of the cards and stuff, I guess I just like simple stuff when it comes to games. Valve has given more than its taken in my opinion, and you're getting mad at what? Their selling and having ways of profiting? Since when was it a horrible thing for a corporation to make money off of their product? Also who cares about the whole expanding friends list, it's not Facebook where you brag about how many friends you have and I don't remember having 100+ friends on steam I actually talk to daily. Overall I agree with some of your points, I don't really understand paying money for texture overlays and making Modding on cs go basically obsolete. What would interest me is maybe new weapons like cs online does instead of vtf overlays. You can look at valves cs go and make arguments but Battlefield 3's DLC gold packs and whatnot are pathetic as well. Posting one screenshot of a couple indie games for sale then showing origins sales isn't proving anything. basically steam sales have helped people buy a game for me then I exchange them cards,hats, backgrounds, and emoticons. Hope you enjoyed the longest paragraph in history.
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    To be honest, I hate the idea of having "items" (tradable or not, I don't care) in games like CSGO (just an example). I prefer Counter-Strike Source's modding support over sh*tty retextures which you even have to pay for. :/ As some guys earlier said, Valve got too much praise. There are, of course, many good things they did in the past, but ain't happening "that much" anymore. On the other side, Origin, well, EA... EA is known for crap they do, but if nothing, they have good sales (which are, if I am not wrong, even more often than on Steam) plus they have the so called "Origin On the House" where you can get some games for free and they remain forever on your account (BF3 and PvZ were "on the house" a while ago). Steam does have such "giveaways", too, but they will never give their own title for free, and even if/when they do (L4D2 was free for 24 hrs on Xmas last year), it lasts for 24 hrs while Origin's On The House lasts for even a few weeks. Another thing I like on Origin is their "direct chat support", so you don't have to wait for a few days (and sometimes even weeks) like at Steam to get a reply from the Support Team. You can chat directly with their Support Team (of course, you gotta wait a while for a "slot" to talk with them, but they help you faster than the guys at Steam do). After all, Origin (which is in my personal opinion the baddest thing about it) downloads games in "chunks" so if you shut down your PC while the download was at 83%, it's very possible that it will go back to 75% after you open Origin again. That is a good thing for people with fast internet so the files won't become corrupted, but not all their customers live in the US, Canada, Germany, Switzerland, China and other countries where internet is really fast.
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    By the way, Zamphire, do you think this will ever change? It's been five years now... :(
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    > **Posted by andrept4** > > without valve you wouldn't be on this site, so ... don't comment any more, please. Was only here for skyrim HUEHUE...... semi banned from nexus HUEHUE > **Posted by Clener74** > > By the way, Zamphire, do you think this will ever change? It's been five years now... :( Nope, prob wont happen in hl3(plz god dont let it happen) but i am 100% sure it will happen in tf3, cs(3?), L4D3 and Ricochet 2.
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    > **Posted by zamphire** > > > **Posted by andrept4** > > > > without valve you wouldn't be on this site, so ... don't comment any more, please. > > Was only here for skyrim HUEHUE...... semi banned from nexus HUEHUE > > > **Posted by Clener74** > > > > By the way, Zamphire, do you think this will ever change? It's been five years now... :( > > Nope, prob wont happen in hl3(plz god dont let it happen) but i am 100% sure it will happen in tf3, cs(3?), L4D3 and Ricochet 2. "Cs3" came out a long time ago
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    > **Posted by Rex_The_Impaler** > > > **Posted by zamphire** > > > > > **Posted by andrept4** > > > > > > without valve you wouldn't be on this site, so ... don't comment any more, please. > > > > Was only here for skyrim HUEHUE...... semi banned from nexus HUEHUE > > > > > **Posted by Clener74** > > > > > > By the way, Zamphire, do you think this will ever change? It's been five years now... :( > > > > Nope, prob wont happen in hl3(plz god dont let it happen) but i am 100% sure it will happen in tf3, cs(3?), L4D3 and Ricochet 2. > > "Cs3" came out a long time ago Then that means we are at half life 4 and have been waiting for 5. Or we have been at half life 7. Thats why it has not come out yet we have all been wrong and asking them for a games thats already be made. :P
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    I honestly wouldn't blame them for wanting money. I want money too. B R O K E B O Y S But in all honesty, microtransactions was probably the best thing to happen to VALVes games. A way to monetize and keep game growth with relatively frequent updates. Not to mention part of it also goes to support leagues and major tournaments including prize money for The International in Dota 2. All in all a good thing I believe.
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    Yeah VALVE is so bad. They made a game they spent 9 years making free, added items so they can fund servers and update the game every once in a while. The worse thing is that valve is Pay-2-Win like any other triple A companies. OH and they're so SINISTER because they didn't add a map THAT IS FREE TO DOWNLOAD. And to top it off, they're horrible for not making a game every year with the same title. True lazyness
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    Is someone forcing you to buy anything to enhance your gaming experience? Owning a fancy hat, or a knife does not affect your play style.
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    > **Posted by someone101001** > > Yeah VALVE is so bad. They made a game they spent 9 years making free, added items so they can fund servers and update the game every once in a while. The worse thing is that valve is Pay-2-Win like any other triple A companies. OH and they're so SINISTER because they didn't add a map THAT IS FREE TO DOWNLOAD. And to top it off, they're horrible for not making a game every year with the same title. True lazyness WHo says they need to host their own tf2/css/csgo server or what ever game your talking about. Player hosted servers are better anyways....The fuck you talking about it did not take 9 years to make. It failed 2 times then then they made tf2 prob 3 years not sure tho could of been 2 years. Also they sold that game for a few years then made it free. with a item mall....Also still said new players could not be smart enough to play it. I also never said they should make a new game every year. Maybe make a DoD2 or that half life game that made you famous in the first place.
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    I agree mostly, but two things. The tradable items in Portal 2 are only for the multiplayer game, which in no way is the main selling point of the game. The singleplayer of Portal 2 was much more prominent, which is exactly how I think Half-Life 3 will be. I doubt there will even be a multiplayer (except maybe a HL3: Deathmatch, which will be a separate game entirely, same as the last two Deathmatch games). And Steam Greenlight is a great way for new, lesser known, indie developers to get the attention they deserve. So many great games have been released on Greenlight. Everything else though, I agree, it's been pretty shit.
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    > **Posted by zamphire** > > Nope, prob wont happen in hl3(plz god dont let it happen) but i am 100% sure it will happen in tf3, cs(3?), L4D3 and Ricochet 2. New announcements: HL3 will include unlockable weapons with different stats and cosmetics for the protagonist's player model. It's Valve :V
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    > **Posted by Stargatius** > > > **Posted by andrept4** > > > > without valve you wouldn't be on this site > > Look around this site, not all games here are by valve. Ok but the most skins and maps and etc. come from valve (tf2, cs 1.6, hl, cs go, cs source...)
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    > **Posted by andrept4** > > > **Posted by Stargatius** > > > > > **Posted by andrept4** > > > > > > without valve you wouldn't be on this site > > > > Look around this site, not all games here are by valve. > > Ok but the most skins and maps and etc. come from valve (tf2, cs 1.6, hl, cs go, cs source...) > Tom can we rename the site SourceBanana? > **Posted by Clener74** > > > **Posted by zamphire** > > > > Nope, prob wont happen in hl3(plz god dont let it happen) but i am 100% sure it will happen in tf3, cs(3?), L4D3 and Ricochet 2. > > New announcements: > > HL3 will include unlockable weapons with different stats and cosmetics for the protagonist's player model. > > It's Valve :V Plz help But who all wants to see the lead of xbox division of microsoft, the lead at sony for the ps4 and gabe newell fight like jsut a fist fight for the e3 stage next year. I would buy a XO and ps4 if they do.
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