surf_10x_scratch

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This is a new version of surf_10x_final created by wof-. I recreated this map from scratch. All the credits go to the original creator of this map. Enjoy!

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    beautiful gj vodka
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    Nice disign and nice look. its fun to play on and i like it :D good work!
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    Pros: Nice design... I like this Map! Cons: - Improvements: - Notes: -
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    Whats making the 10x_final so fun to play on is that when you jump right before the portal leading to spawn in high speed you fly away. On 10x_scratch you don't.
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    Uhm my assesment gives you all bugs which you agree exist but are side-affects of other things you were trying to achieve, if you wanted to fix camping problems just look at spawn where EVERYONE goes after surfing their zone, so unless you have anything else to add i'm going to refuse.
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    Here are a few problems I found with the map. I would also suggest really trying to fix these and upload the fixed version since this hasn't been released very long. I would also be more then happy to help you fix something you might not know how to fix.
    Cubemap Issues This whole spawn area needs to be a bit brighter and cubemaps need to either be added or more need to be put in. I'm not exactly sure why this happens but maybe someone else can tell you how to fix this problem.
    Image's #3 and 4: I would really suggest adding player clip to these areas to prevent spawn camping.
    Other then the problems I found above this remake is stunning the skybox is awesome the texture selection was good, and the brush work is great. And I must say this "THANK YOU" for thinking about the extremely annoying jail door sound haha much better.
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    Posted by YDN_oblivion I am reviewing this as a 2nd edit from 10x_reloaded.
    This was not 2nd edit from _reloaded.. But an edit from original 10x.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion Ramps: ramps are much smaller and less easy to surf on, this is a BAD THING.
    No, not really. I don't find this as a bad thing.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion -you can get stuck inside the grate details things at spawn
    You shouldn't be climbing on those things. They are there for visual. And serves only as a neat little detail.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion -you didn't add a block to stop people from flying off the teleport spawn for far right entrance
    At first I had an invisible wall that would block people from flying off without stopping. But then I removed it so people wouldn't camp behind the teleport and kill those who just got there. I do not consider this as a bad thing.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion -the buy zone route you ALWAYS lose 12hp from fall damage no matter what you do
    Actually, only 2hp.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion -the changes to jail with the ledges, these are good but there's no water so how can’t you get down without dying/taking damage???
    There is a ladder (That's why there is an opening in the little fence.) This ladder is just invisible because of unknown reason.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion -awp above first ramp teleport, is very easy to accidentally fly off because of no guard rail/block stopping you
    Once again, at first I had a wall that would stop people from flying off. But I removed it because I wanted to make the map more fast paced.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion -on awp route, also very easy to fall on those pipe things sticking out
    What awp route are you talking about? Please be more specific.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion -the water is also too deep at spawn so you get the ‘bobbing’ up and down effect
    Water is only 4 units deep, your 'bobbing' up is caused by something else that I cannot fix.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion Optimization is bordering terrible, the roof of the main room is waaay too high,
    It is not that terrible. And the roof is not waaay too high.
    Posted by YDN_Oblivion none of the huge things players can't see have been nodrawn (e.g. under/back of jail/under spawns etc)
    Because people can still see those things, if they surf up there.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion which is why you probably get the errors flooding players consoles
    Wrong. I am getting the same errors on surf_10x_reloaded.
    Posted by YDN_oblivion I compared the two and got 70 fps at spawn and 170 fps at jail on yours,
    That is more than enough. In conclusion I find your assessment pretty useless, thus I am going to appeal it.
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    Posted by P!xel Pros: Good job removing the fullbright light. Good ramps, and design to all the things that i could find. Cons: I wish you would have tested out your midway to top more since it has a glitch, but other then that i did not find anything to rate down on... Improvements: Add the screen on top again since that was a coll aspect to the map, Fix way to top, thing in spawn. Notes: Good map whit really good detail, and good job wof- and roma. xD
    What way to top are speaking of? I'm confused.
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    I am reviewing this as a 2nd edit from 10x_reloaded. Ramps: ramps are much smaller and less easy to surf on, this is a BAD THING. BUGS: -The spawn teleport problem was removed in 10x_reloaded, but it still exists in this one! -you can get stuck inside the grate details things at spawn -you didn't add a block to stop people from flying off the teleport spawn for far right entrance -the buy zone route you ALWAYS lose 12hp from fall damage no matter what you do -the changes to jail with the ledges, these are good but there's no water so how can’t you get down without dying/taking damage??? -awp above first ramp teleport, is very easy to accidentally fly off because of no guard rail/block stopping you -on awp route, also very easy to fall on those pipe things sticking out -the water is also too deep at spawn so you get the ‘bobbing’ up and down effect OPTIMIZATION: Optimization is bordering terrible, the roof of the main room is waaay too high, none of the huge things players can't see have been nodrawn (e.g. under/back of jail/under spawns etc) which is why you probably get the errors flooding players consoles. See 10x_reloaded for a good optimization example. I compared the two and got 70 fps at spawn and 170 fps at jail on yours, on 10x_reloaded I was getting 90 at spawn and 290 at jail. IMPROVEMENTS TO OLD MAP: It obviously looks nicer and is more detailed than all other 10x edits, but if detail is going to compromise gameplay then it's not worth doing it (see bugs) I especially liked the middle ramp with the hole in it. The hole at the start also lets you continue surfing. I did notice the sloped ledge outside jail, but this blocks players from telejumping. OVERALL: The screenshots make this look very nice, but upon testing this map is riddled with problems and bugs, unnecessary fall damage, poor optimization, easy teleport camping. This map has been manicured by the mapper, yet seems untested. Stick with 10x_reloaded or the original, this is one step forward with graphics/detail, but two steps back with gameplay.
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    Pros: Good job removing the fullbright light. Good ramps, and design to all the things that i could find. Cons: I wish you would have tested out your midway to top more since it has a glitch, but other then that i did not find anything to rate down on... Improvements: Add the screen on top again since that was a coll aspect to the map, Fix way to top, thing in spawn. Notes: Good map whit really good detail, and good job wof- and roma. xD
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    I like surf.
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