a concept rifle find in deviantart,some parts seem not reasonable,i'll make changes if necessarily.
finish stock and grip,but i must say i dont like my work.EoD also made some changes,i think he do much better than me.i found several pics of cz805 while i look for refs for this gun,maybe it's wise i end up this modeling and pickup cz805.
Posted by tenoyl
Posted by J.Joker
Posted by tenoyl
Posted by J.Joker
if i release this public,i will give other authers proper credits,until now i even don't know if i will finish this and all i have done are wthin my pc,is this clear?
i dont know who you are and i dont know if you have any works can be stolen by others,if there're any,talk to those who did this.
and you can keep your respect for yourself,i dont really care.i have enough talking with you,you can still post in this wip,but without any reply.sorry for that.
do as you wish, kid.
i do have works and sometimes they get stolen, i have an account on flickr with my works.
you didn't have my respect for stealing someone else's work, and you don't have it now.
i have tried to be nice and friendly with you but it's useless.
poor man,you seem dont have enough education,your behaviour just like a spoiled child.if you dont know how to respect others,at least you can try to respect youself.
and here's the kid saying the classic phrase about education and behaviour.
i pity you, because by saying what you said all you did was showing how wrong you are.
oh, and didn't you say in a post that you wouldn't have answered me anymore?
i don't need to show a proper education with folks like you, pal, you're not worth my time.
Posted by Ganryu
Just going to throw this out here for everyone to mull around in the ol' noggin, but uh...since when do you have to give credit for using reference images to make something from scratch in terms of models? The last I checked, a lot of people use reference images to make a model.
If you really want to get technical about that, then almost everything on this site is involved with credit theft in some way. Trying to pull the whole "shame on you!" tactic for someone not giving credit to a reference image is literally pointless as the model itself is being made from scratch and will not be a 100% exact representation of the real thing.
at least this is a rational discussion,i know most modeller dont give credit to a reference image,because most image uploader dont object to others make thier creation based on shared images,they just claim the copyright of the images itself.and most concept art have the same.
this concept created by cityofthesouth in deviantart,the auther don't mention people should get permission first before they do anything based on his work,i planed send a render to auther when this model is half-done,in this case,that means my highpoly model should be almost done.based on my knowledge,there are many modelers in deviantart do the same as me.
that's why i mentioned reference image,if authers don't object to peaple use their shared work,why just concept art need get permission first even if the auther never claim you should get permission first?
Agree x 2
Just going to throw this out here for everyone to mull around in the ol' noggin, but uh...since when do you have to give credit for using reference images to make something from scratch in terms of models? The last I checked, a lot of people use reference images to make a model.
If you really want to get technical about that, then almost everything on this site is involved with credit theft in some way. Trying to pull the whole "shame on you!" tactic for someone not giving credit to a reference image is literally pointless as the model itself is being made from scratch and will not be a 100% exact representation of the real thing.
Posted by J.Joker
Posted by tenoyl
Posted by J.Joker
if i release this public,i will give other authers proper credits,until now i even don't know if i will finish this and all i have done are wthin my pc,is this clear?
i dont know who you are and i dont know if you have any works can be stolen by others,if there're any,talk to those who did this.
and you can keep your respect for yourself,i dont really care.i have enough talking with you,you can still post in this wip,but without any reply.sorry for that.
do as you wish, kid.
i do have works and sometimes they get stolen, i have an account on flickr with my works.
you didn't have my respect for stealing someone else's work, and you don't have it now.
i have tried to be nice and friendly with you but it's useless.
poor man,you seem dont have enough education,your behaviour just like a spoiled child.if you dont know how to respect others,at least you can try to respect youself.
Agree x 1
Posted by tenoyl
Posted by J.Joker
if i release this public,i will give other authers proper credits,until now i even don't know if i will finish this and all i have done are wthin my pc,is this clear?
i dont know who you are and i dont know if you have any works can be stolen by others,if there're any,talk to those who did this.
and you can keep your respect for yourself,i dont really care.i have enough talking with you,you can still post in this wip,but without any reply.sorry for that.
do as you wish, kid.
i do have works and sometimes they get stolen, i have an account on flickr with my works.
you didn't have my respect for stealing someone else's work, and you don't have it now.
i have tried to be nice and friendly with you but it's useless.
Dumb x 1
Posted by J.Joker
if i release this public,i will give other authers proper credits,until now i even don't know if i will finish this and all i have done are wthin my pc,is this clear?
i dont know who you are and i dont know if you have any works can be stolen by others,if there're any,talk to those who did this.
and you can keep your respect for yourself,i dont really care.i have enough talking with you,you can still post in this wip,but without any reply.sorry for that.
Posted by tenoyl
Posted by J.Joker
Posted by tenoyl
Posted by J.Joker
you've completely misunderstood my point.
yeh,i think i did.what you said is just a joke from Joker.
nope. what i said is something that has sense and should be respected.
i come from a community that is extremely strict about giving credit, and for me seeing that someone doesn't credit someone else for something is extremely wrong.
in spite of the nickname, J.Joker never makes jokes.
since you and daisuke have already so many posts in my wip,i tell you what's my plan:if i finsih the highpoly,i'll send a render to the author let him know where his work was used,now all are some points,lines in my pc,so i can confirm i didn't infringe anyone's copyright.
i know daisuke also model something,i dont know if get permissions for every pic he used as refenece,i think he never do this;i also know daisuke make some concepts,i don't know if he get permissions for those idea he took from others work,i think never do this too.
so,how about we end this discussion here and continue it after you and daisuke exactly know what you are talking about?and for you,Joker,i think you need to learn how to respect others first.
i know how to respect others, don't get confused.
and it's exactly because of the fact that i show respect (not to you in this case) that i want you to give credit properly.
do you know what is like to spend days or even months on a weapon and then see that after the work is done some new guy takes your work and "forgets" to give credit to you?
first of all, that is called stealing, and unless you give proper credit it will be like as if you stole something.
i know what does it feel like, since my creations (i use Pimp My Gun) have been stolen numerous times and the same happened to a lot of good users in the Flickr PMG community.
it's not that i don't want to show YOU respect, it's just that things like this piss me off.
don't get too mad over this, because i'm not aggressive towards you and i don't hate you, i just want things to be done properly.
Posted by J.Joker
Posted by tenoyl
Posted by J.Joker
you've completely misunderstood my point.
yeh,i think i did.what you said is just a joke from Joker.
nope. what i said is something that has sense and should be respected.
i come from a community that is extremely strict about giving credit, and for me seeing that someone doesn't credit someone else for something is extremely wrong.
in spite of the nickname, J.Joker never makes jokes.
since you and daisuke have already so many posts in my wip,i tell you what's my plan:if i finsih the highpoly,i'll send a render to the author let him know where his work was used,now all are some points,lines in my pc,so i can confirm i didn't infringe anyone's copyright.
i know daisuke also model something,i dont know if get permissions for every pic he used as refenece,i think he never do this;i also know daisuke make some concepts,i don't know if he get permissions for those idea he took from others work,i think never do this too.
so,how about we end this discussion here and continue it after you and daisuke exactly know what you are talking about?and for you,Joker,i think you need to learn how to respect others first.
Posted by tenoyl
Posted by J.Joker
you've completely misunderstood my point.
yeh,i think i did.what you said is just a joke from Joker.
nope. what i said is something that has sense and should be respected.
i come from a community that is extremely strict about giving credit, and for me seeing that someone doesn't credit someone else for something is extremely wrong.
in spite of the nickname, J.Joker never makes jokes.
Posted by J.Joker
you've completely misunderstood my point.
yeh,i think i did.what you said is just a joke from Joker.
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