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It went over why kids, but did it say why girls?

I remember there being an audio-log that stated, by the mother goose-lady, that the Little Sister's were chosen, in part, due to the fact that youung children were made effectively immortal by Adam. This explains everything except why they are all little girls. This would be like "why are all SSII Hybrids male" but Tenenbaum does ask, in the same log, a question: Why do they have to be little girls? Is there any reason why they are all female?

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    Its because pedobear only rapes the little girls.So does the main character.

    Nah im just kidding.I really wondered this myself.I think they are the children of some woman or something like that.I dont know i havent played in a long time.

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    It could possibly be the whole 30s/50s style morality that would dissuade most people from whacking them with pipes and sucking them of their adam, but I guess it was probably because the Little Sisters are on the whole more creepy.
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    Whether this sounds heartless or not, as a gamer, would it even be a real decision whether or not to kill them if they were boys?
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    "In order to improve ADAM yields, Rapture scientists created the "Little Sisters", young girls, each with a slug embedded in her body. Although initially just ADAM "factories", during the war which later broke out, they were repurposed via mental conditioning to extract ADAM from the dead, and recycle it within themselves. At the same time, the scientists created "Big Daddies", (voiced by Stephen Stanton) armed and highly enhanced humans in diving suits - to defend the Little Sisters as they worked."


    It does't look as if there's any major significance for them being girls. I'm sure it was mainly to fit with the ADAM/EVE idea; and to further the idea of a strong figure (Big Daddy) protecting a weaker figure (Little Sister).
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    Posted by Snuffles

    Whether this sounds heartless or not, as a gamer, would it even be a real decision whether or not to kill them if they were boys?


    I'd imagine if the case was wether or not it is paternal instinct, I don't think it'd matter, but thats probably the case. Wish there was better info on why, but thank you all for the information you gave.
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    The developers had some inspiration from the movie The Shining. It is evident in the Little Sisters.

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    In one of Tenebaum's audio logs, she vaguely describes that she does not know why female children create so much ADAM compared to anyone else. Regardless the whole moral choice thing seemed like a horrible plot element.
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    The initial idea (from the monolouge by Ryan) was "We all make choices, but the end our choices, makes, us"

    It got simplifed to "right or wrong" but the idea I got was that morality, to a point, and what makes us human will be altered by the various decisions we make. It'd be a cool idea to watch other splicers/characters react to what decisinos you make.
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    Posted by AnelaidLives

    The initial idea (from the monolouge by Ryan) was "We all make choices, but the end our choices, makes, us"

    It got simplifed to "right or wrong" but the idea I got was that morality, to a point, and what makes us human will be altered by the various decisions we make. It'd be a cool idea to watch other splicers/characters react to what decisinos you make.


    I get where your coming from, but I was expecting a little more free will then just Mother Teresa (Good) and Baby-Killer (Bad).
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    That was my issue with it, they took a good idea and made it into a great miscarriage of the main point.
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    It was explained somewhere that when little girls drank the Adam, the amount multiplied while it was in the stomach. It wasn't the same for little boys.

    I think that's right, it's been like 3 months since I read the page for it.
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    Posted by blerb

    It was explained somewhere that when little girls drank the Adam, the amount multiplied while it was in the stomach. It wasn't the same for little boys.

    I think that's right, it's been like 3 months since I read the page for it.


    Do you have a link/remember where it was?
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    Probably the Wiki.
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    Well, first of all, no little girls = no fucking pedobear. No fucking pedobear = no excitement. The mother goose lady is the scientist btw that chose the little girls (from what I remember), she's probably more interested in little girls then boys, it's like a female version of MJ. Get the point? Save all the little girls (don't harvest any of them), and they grow up to evade the pedobear and live a happy normal life. You don't see little boys getting away from the pedobear as much as little girls do you?

    Oh and for real, have you seen a little boy in BioShock, I haven't. MJ already took them all (since it's underwater, he won't get caught as easily), leaving the little sisters. Pedobear comes late and goes like OH MY LAWD! 5 OF THEM!
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    Posted by dys

    The developers had some inspiration from the movie The Shining. It is evident in the Little Sisters.



    Question one:
    So you're telling me that Jack's the boy on the tricycle?!
    Question two:
    Then who's the guy with the axe?
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    Little boys a generally thought of as mischievous, and little girls are generally thought of as innocent.
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    Cause the little girls are a hell of a lot creepier. duh.
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    I have a feeling Schouong had a diary talking about how only the girls could process the ADAM.
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    They have wombs that could hold these slugs, a house for them really. No? Well, thats just my two cents.
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    Posted by Snuffles

    Whether this sounds heartless or not, as a gamer, would it even be a real decision whether or not to kill them if they were boys?

    huh, i allways kill everyone...
    you should see me play GTA4 , its hard to go somewhere when there are poeple everywhere that needs to get killed...


    ya but if you got 1 minute without some1's pelvis snapping on your radiator your playing it wrong, so.. :P
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    Posted by dys

    The developers had some inspiration from the movie The Shining. It is evident in the Little Sisters.



    Question one:
    So you're telling me that Jack's the boy on the tricycle?!
    Question two:
    Then who's the guy with the axe?

    I haven't played through the entire game, so I don't know how to answer those questions. But I read in EGM or Xbox Magazine that they did get some inspiration from The Shining. The only thing I know of specifically is the little sisters because That picture was in the magazine.
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    Fontaine's the guy with the ax.
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    The Shining picture does look alot like the little sisters in Bioshock.
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    Posted by Cyclonety

    Its because pedobear only rapes the little girls.So does the main character.

    Nah im just kidding.I really wondered this myself.I think they are the children of some woman or something like that.I dont know i havent played in a long time.

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    Posted by dys

    The developers had some inspiration from the movie The Shining. It is evident in the Little Sisters.



    But...the little sisters are not evil. They help you and are "normal people" (at the end they charge fontaine with needles and poke him to death). If you get the good ending the doctor (narrator) even says they are normal people, whom which you help and considered "family" to you (although I would think pedobear).
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    Posted by ninjaz1337

    Posted by dys

    The developers had some inspiration from the movie The Shining. It is evident in the Little Sisters.



    But...the little sisters are not evil. They help you and are "normal people" (at the end they charge fontaine with needles and poke him to death). If you get the good ending the doctor (narrator) even says they are normal people, whom which you help and considered "family" to you (although I would think pedobear).


    They aren't "evil" but they are not "good"; they are unwilling servants to the requirement of Adam, and for that, they are innocent. Their murder of Fontaine is, at best, an act of revenge. I don't see how anyone, nevertheless a child, could be normal afterwards so I always though the ending was a typical "Love/Family/being a good guy fixes everything and bad guys get their due" which contradicted the whole moraless nature of Rapture to begin with.
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    Posted by ninjaz1337

    Well, first of all, no little girls = no fucking pedobear. No fucking pedobear = no excitement. The mother goose lady is the scientist btw that chose the little girls (from what I remember), she's probably more interested in little girls then boys, it's like a female version of MJ. Get the point? Save all the little girls (don't harvest any of them), and they grow up to evade the pedobear and live a happy normal life. You don't see little boys getting away from the pedobear as much as little girls do you?

    Oh and for real, have you seen a little boy in BioShock, I haven't. MJ already took them all (since it's underwater, he won't get caught as easily), leaving the little sisters. Pedobear comes late and goes like OH MY LAWD! 5 OF THEM!


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    No idea why they chose who they did to be the main adam jackpots if you will. But I never really could harvest any of the little sisters. Don't know why, if it where a little boy I would harvest him and then throw him at a big daddy.. but that's just me.
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    Posted by dys

    The developers had some inspiration from the movie The Shining. It is evident in the Little Sisters.



    But...the little sisters are not evil. They help you and are "normal people" (at the end they charge fontaine with needles and poke him to death). If you get the good ending the doctor (narrator) even says they are normal people, whom which you help and considered "family" to you (although I would think pedobear).


    They aren't "evil" but they are not "good"; they are unwilling servants to the requirement of Adam, and for that, they are innocent. Their murder of Fontaine is, at best, an act of revenge. I don't see how anyone, nevertheless a child, could be normal afterwards so I always though the ending was a typical "Love/Family/being a good guy fixes everything and bad guys get their due" which contradicted the whole moraless nature of Rapture to begin with.


    I don't see how you can call that "murder", simply because they have been helping you throughout many times in the game (escaping from a near-death thing). Plus, have you played Bioshock enough to get all 3 endings? If you harvest one or two little sisters, you end up with an evil storyline (you taking the place of your "dad" and you kill of the little sisters that give you the key to the city). If you harvest all, the narrator's voice is super pissed off and you escape rapture and kill more people. NOTE (I only got the good ending and the one where you harvest 1 or 2). 3rd one I found out through a video. Now, the reason the happy ending comes is that because you (main character) never got a real family. You were considered a slave to do things (Would you kindly....). Showing that you were NOT greedy to kill any little sisters (knowing that they give a whole shitload of ADAM), the storyline follows with the family ending. Would it make sense you spare all the little sisters just to take over rapture (accept the key one of them gives you) and start bombing the place, that would be a horrible storyline. I do not see the evil in the little sisters, since they only gain ADAM through dead things. I mean, they killed fontaine to help you (like again I said, they helped you many times before throughout the storyline). If they were really desperate for adam, they would kill you and take the adam out of you.

    In result from this looooong quote: BioShock ending(s) make sense, completely. Your actions tell your consequences, or results.

    Edit: and by bombing (since you already destroyed the main factor of it), I mean by really taking control over the city again, take revenge on regular people (as you see in the evil ending).

    The mood of Bioshock is not total greed and control, but the results of it which ends up dragging lives of innocents into the consequences. Leading to "survival of the fittest" = driven to craziness with adam.

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    The result of the moraless is control, Fontaine controls everyone, Ryan in his attempt to secure control, has the attack on new years. But the question is, there are interpretation to what the Little Sisters are, assuming the character believes Atlas (given that he is, at that time, the only person you are familiar with), there is no reason to believe Little Sistes are human. You are a mindslave, that negates, until you lose Would you Kindly in theory, but then things are set in stone. Your "choices" are in a sense, beyond your control. They aren't desperate for Adam (although their conditiong may have then harvest out of habit), but they have a reason to dislike Fontaine, and their killing of him is murder, regardless if its justified or not. It is true that your character does make choices, but on the whole, you, as the character, do not make any real choices aside from the Little Sisters, although that is arguably an important factor given the end. Is it a matter of greed to harvest them, or a matter of wanting to live? I never really thought that morality, in a post-rapture (har har) environment applies in the way it would in our society. Especialyl given the mentality within Rapture.
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    Very simple answer... Young girls are a cliche of horror. They use little girls in movies to provide mystery, suspense and some fear in you, that's the same reason for this one. They look all nice in their clothing but possessed looking at the same time.
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    Well, I think I should clarify, I understand why, in terms of game design, why Little Sisters were used but I never remembered the ingame reason why.
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